The real reason Marlin Lane was suspended

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beachbums624 said:
There is NO difference . Be this the FSU case or any one else . There is NO difference between the Accused . I will bet , That you folks would have differing opinions based on the crime .
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Except the mountain of evidence that shows where the Tallahassee PD handled things inappropriately, the university gave Winston's lawyer info before they were supposed to....and the list goes on and on
 
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volgrad500 said:
The fact that we are just now learning about it. If it was out there and I didn't know it, then I apologize. Otherwise, how FL handled it makes our response pale in comparison, imo.
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So Coach Jones should have called a pressed and said, "I want to inform everyone that Marlin Lane was accused of sexual assault, but the police investigated, and no charges are pending?"
Is that what you want or think Marlin deserves?
 
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RSATURDAY said:
This and only this! Anything else is speculation by posters who are hyper sensitive to media influence. These same individuals are why infomercials still exist...
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I'm not the biggest fan of the media, even though I am part of it, but it's not reasonable to dismiss everything the media reports just because it doesn't fit a particular agenda. To be sure, it gets overboard on occasion, but I will always stand up for the benefit of shedding light on things people would rather keep in the dark. I have no particular knowledge of this case and I will not make any judgment. Sounds fair.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
So just to be clear, the only issue you have with UT is that they didn't make this public knowledge earlier?

You have no issues with the investigating and conclusion?
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I have no idea how the investigation was handled. I will say this-I spent the early part of my career at the DA's office. People acting as if this never happened because the lady declined to pursue charges are incredibly wrong. That happens all the time for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with the innocence of the people involved.

I come on this site and joke around and we argue about #$%#, but if you guys think this was handled correctly, we are just going to have to disagree. You guys are so quick to defend Jones that it is seriously clouding your judgement.
 
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volgrad500 said:
In this instance I'm trying to make the point that we condemn other programs for covering this type of thing up, when it appears we did the exact thing.

In general, I'd like to make the point that you are the biggest loser that posts on this site.
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Then condemn the program. Complain. Talk about how it's a double standard. Talk about how we are holier than thou. Why does it matter?

In general, opinions are like friends, everybody usually has at least one stupid one. Thanks for sharing yours.
 
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volgrad500 said:
I have no idea how the investigation was handled. I will say this-I spent the early part of my career at the DA's office. People acting as if this never happened because the lady declined to pursue charges are incredibly wrong. That happens all the time for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with the innocence of the people involved.

I come on this site and joke around and we argue about #$%#, but if you guys think this was handled correctly, we are just going to have to disagree. You guys are so quick to defend Jones that it is seriously clouding your judgement.
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Specifically what would you like them to have done differently? It seems to me you just think they should publicly announce any and all accusations. As I stated earlier that's not how investigations work. As someone who used to work in the DA's office you should know that.
 
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onevol74 said:
I guess domestic assault is a no no but rape is a minor offense according to that.
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So let me get this straight all you geniuses are suggesting we not only suspend the player pending the investigation but automatically kick them off the team before anything is substantiated? Butch did the right thing here just like he did in the Paulk case. You react to accusations and protect the team and university by suspending the player but you just cannot destroy a kid's life just because he is accused of a crime.
 
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volgrad500 said:
I have no idea how the investigation was handled. I will say this-I spent the early part of my career at the DA's office. People acting as if this never happened because the lady declined to pursue charges are incredibly wrong. That happens all the time for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with the innocence of the people involved.

I come on this site and joke around and we argue about #$%#, but if you guys think this was handled correctly, we are just going to have to disagree. You guys are so quick to defend Jones that it is seriously clouding your judgement.
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And you are so quick to condemn the accused that it is clouding your judgement. How was it mishandled? Because no one told you? Boo boo.
 
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volgrad500 said:
I have no idea how the investigation was handled. I will say this-I spent the early part of my career at the DA's office. People acting as if this never happened because the lady declined to pursue charges are incredibly wrong. That happens all the time for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with the innocence of the people involved.

I come on this site and joke around and we argue about #$%#, but if you guys think this was handled correctly, we are just going to have to disagree. You guys are so quick to defend Jones that it is seriously clouding your judgement.
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Okay. How was it handled incorrectly?
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
And you are so quick to condemn the accused that it is clouding your judgement. How was it mishandled? Because no one told you? Boo boo.
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Exactly. People are just mad they didn't know about it.

He was suspended immediately and was not reinstated until the investigation was finished and no charges were pressed. What other steps could they have taken?
 
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volgrad500 said:
I have no idea how the investigation was handled. I will say this-I spent the early part of my career at the DA's office. People acting as if this never happened because the lady declined to pursue charges are incredibly wrong. That happens all the time for a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with the innocence of the people involved.

I come on this site and joke around and we argue about #$%#, but if you guys think this was handled correctly, we are just going to have to disagree. You guys are so quick to defend Jones that it is seriously clouding your judgement.
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And, if he's not in "Just Busted," it doesn't count.
 
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If your only beef with this is the fact that Lane wasnt perp walked in front of ESPN, Deadspin, etc then you're taking a pretty weak position.
 
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AllVolinGA said:
So Coach Jones should have called a pressed and said, "I want to inform everyone that Marlin Lane was accused of sexual assault, but the police investigated, and no charges are pending?"
Is that what you want or think Marlin deserves?
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No he wanted his own private call from
Jones. His right to know is more important then a sexual assault investigation being handled properly.
 
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Well, if some journalist knowing minimal facts states UT covered up something..than it must be true, right? Hilarious.
Plus...Marlin Lane is too slow for criminal behavior, Crime would run right past him.
 
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T-for-Tennessee said:
I'm not the biggest fan of the media, even though I am part of it, but it's not reasonable to dismiss everything the media reports just because it doesn't fit a particular agenda. To be sure, it gets overboard on occasion, but I will always stand up for the benefit of shedding light on things people would rather keep in the dark. I have no particular knowledge of this case and I will not make any judgment. Sounds fair.
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I was speaking on people who are hyper sensitive to media reports, surely you know the type.
 
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And running back coach Robert Gillespie noted Lane had "learned from his mistakes, and he's done a good job of putting those behind him."

This just sounds a little too FSU like for me. I don't know exactly what he meant by "mistakes," but if the staff had reason to believe he did anything sexually that infringed on someone's rights, there's no way he shouldn't have been dismissed.
 
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volgrad500 said:
I would have preferred we handle it like FL did-say why he was suspended to send the message that we take it seriously and that the behavior wouldn't be tolerated.
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Yeah, and now Harris is going to have to live with that the rest of his life. People are just going to assume he is guilty and think he is a racist for the rest of his life, when in fact he may have done absolutely nothing wrong.
 
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Its not what you know its what you cab prove. I do not condone rape in anyway shape or form. We all will have to answer to a higher court one day so its not my job to figure it out or judge either one of the individuals involved.
 
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beachbums624 said:
There is NO difference . Be this the FSU case or any one else . There is NO difference between the Accused . I will bet , That you folks would have differing opinions based on the crime . EDIT : in other words , if this was a crack sale , the accused would be guilty before he go out of the cuffs . No , I don't sell crack . Just saying , some of us are ready to stone the accused before there could even be a trial , some are just OK it did not look bad about UT .

Tennessee , has long been a state of varying justice . Put up your knives boys n girls . NONE of us where there .
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You post like you are on crack. Even after it is edited .
 
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We are all Tennessee fans, presumably. And, like most fans, we think our team can do no wrong, except on Saturdays. Truth is, every college football team is made up of young men who are coveted by a certain group of young women, and bad things can happen when the two collide. It was that way when I was in college, and obviously it's that way today. Unless we were in that room, and thank God we were not, we can't know what happened. The woman's allegation doesn't mean she was raped. The lack of charges doesn't mean she wasn't raped. That is where it begins and ends for us. Speculate, convict, acquit, make excuses, whatever. We simply do not know. So please don't make judgments either way.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Yeah, and now Harris is going to have to live with that the rest of his life. People are just going to assume he is guilty and think he is a racist for the rest of his life, when in fact he may have done absolutely nothing wrong.
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Coach Jones is like the CEO of a company. You have to protect the organization. As it was handled now Lane is going to have to live with it the rest of his life, AND Tennessee now looks like it attempted to hide a possible rape from the public. But I'm sure you're right, your way is much better.
 
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T-for-Tennessee said:
I'm not the biggest fan of the media, even though I am part of it, but it's not reasonable to dismiss everything the media reports just because it doesn't fit a particular agenda. To be sure, it gets overboard on occasion, but I will always stand up for the benefit of shedding light on things people would rather keep in the dark. I have no particular knowledge of this case and I will not make any judgment. Sounds fair.
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That's the problem - far to often these days the media does have an agenda and it's slanted towards 2 bit muckraking instead of straight up news. Sensation. Emotive. In this particular case, 1) The journalist (cough) clearly has her dates wrong. Why? 2) If her dates are correct, why publish something that is over 18 months old when nobody was charged with anything?
 
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