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McDad said:
I stopped voting. But, i dont support anything that gives the ruling class more power over private citizens and businesses,
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In November, Tennesseeans will vote on Amendment 2, which would allow the governor to directly appoint appellate nominees, who would then be approved by the state Legislature. (Voters determine whether to retain judges only after the judges' eight-year terms are up.) This differs from the current method whereby judges are nominated by a commission and then appointed by the governor. The change would cut out that first step, granting the governor more power.

Moreeeeee power! Can never have enough power and money.
 
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McDad said:
I stopped voting. But, i dont support anything that gives the ruling class more power over private citizens and businesses,
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That post right there is pure golden.

You jump my arse for supporting moderate candidates, suggesting moderates are bad for American. You then talk about a group along with yourself that supports a particular political ideology, then you post you don't vote. By not voting you do not support nor fight against any political ideology.

If you are too lazy to take yourself and vote for the candidates that support the issues that are important to you be it Conservative, Liberal or Moderate, you have no right to complain about anything our government does.

It is simple, vote or stfu.
 
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Gramps said:
That post right there is pure golden.

You jump my arse for supporting moderate candidates, suggesting moderates are bad for American. You then talk about a group along with yourself that supports a particular political ideology, then you post you don't vote. By not voting you do not support nor fight against any political ideology.

If you are too lazy to take yourself and vote for the candidates that support the issues that are important to you be it Conservative, Liberal or Moderate, you have no right to complain about anything our government does.

It is simple, vote or stfu.
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Let's say everyone voted in our country. Would we see a better or worse system?
 
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LouderVol said:
you divide it up, then you can parse it back together afterwards. The estate tax has been in effect since 1916, got reworked in 86. its not like this is a new issue. or one unique to the US. I am not saying its fun or even fair, but the rules are the rules. you get the law changed if you don't like it. I also believe there are ways to get local ordinances/communities to counter that law, but that may be me talking out of my rear.
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It was passed at a time when there were virtually no boundaries on the super rich. The bulk of the wealth in the country was consolidated in less then 10 families and this was one of several means for the government to redistribute their wealth. Maybe that was the right call at the time, I'm not an economics historian so I can't really say. But, I can say the unintended consequences have hurt smaller enterprises and the solutions you propose are not really viable.
 
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#VFL__ said:
Haha yeah you're right.

Check out the guy who could get a billion dollar tax break for buying a sports team. Do you get that type of break from your government McDad?
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It's all relative. We used to be able to take an accelerated section 179 on new trucks. Three 200k trucks in a year for me might equal a sports team to a billionaire.

You just continually show your ignorance and jealousy.
 
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McDad said:
You will never get it. Neither will your children nor your grandchildren. You, as a moderate, absolutely help to guarantee the corruption continues in perpetuity. There are things you want the government to do outside of it's Constitution. As long as the fed is the answer, they have power over us all.
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:rock::rock:
 
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McDad said:
Wisdom is supposed to come with age. It's a shame you cannot see what those who ask government to solve problems continue to do to this country.

I know precisely what a moderate, liberal and conservative is. Moderates look at legislation and decide if they like it or not; determine whether they think it's beneficial for them and to hell with the country. If it meets their criteria, they support it. So moderates, like all people who look to the governemnt for solutions, are part of the problem. Every time the whores are asked to get involved to make things better, they take more power. More power means more money. More money and power means more corruption. Conservatives have their sacred cows too. They are not immune to handing over more control to the ruling class.

Gramps, continue to talk out of both sides of your mouth if it makes you feel better. I don't care. Support legislation you like and hope and pray for changes to the status quo. Advocate for tweaking the ACA legislation and hope your kids and grandkids will not be burdened with inconceivable debt loads. Pledge allegiance to our flag while our Constitution is defiled with each lousy legislative session.

I realize this position isn't popular. Many of us, myself included for years, identify with a particular political ideology. Being self aware enough to realize that we all have been part of the problem of bloated, corrupt governance is disheartening. Maybe there is a Statesman or Stateswoman on the horizon. I don't know. All i know for absolute certainty is, God is in control and i am happy to be a citizen of His kingdom.
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Fixed your post.
 
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hog88 said:
Sounds like he knows EXACTLY what a moderate is.
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He nor you knows what a moderate is. I at least give you credit for voting your beliefs while McDad chooses to not vote, sit home and ***** about everything our government does.
 
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Gramps said:
He nor you knows what a moderate is. I at least give you credit for voting your beliefs while McDad chooses to not vote, sit home and ***** about everything our government does.
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I know exactly what a "moderate", they go whichever way the wind is blowing and only cares about what's best for them.
 
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#VFL__ said:
Let's say everyone voted in our country. Would we see a better or worse system?
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It may be better or it may be worse. The point is, if someone chooses not to use their right to vote for the leaders of our country they have zero right to say anything about what our leaders do.
 
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hog88 said:
I know exactly what a "moderate", they go whichever way the wind is blowing and only cares about what's best for them.
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Wrong a moderate is someone that is smart enough to realize no one side has all the answers and are willing to work with both sides to make a better America. Look at the last few years , where has the my way or the highway attitude by both sides got us?

My way or the highway is the worse possible thing our officials can do, it shows pure ignorance.
 
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Gramps said:
Wrong a moderate is someone that is smart enough to realize no one side has all the answers and are willing to work with both sides to make a better America. Look at the last few years , where has the my way or the highway attitude by both sides got us?

My way or the highway is the worse possible thing our officials can do, it shows pure ignorance.
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Wrong! Moderates do not "work" with either side. They offer their support to which side is offering them something. Sort of like leaches, they suck the blood out of whoever they are attached to. No backbone to take a stand of their own or offer their own solutions.
 
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hog88 said:
Wrong! Moderates do not "work" with either side. They offer their support to which side is offering them something. Sort of like leaches, they suck the blood out of whoever they are attached to. No backbone to take a stand of their own or offer their own solutions.
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Okay hog this is clearly a generalization. You're smarter than that. I think we all know that none of them have the solutions anymore.
 
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Gramps said:
It may be better or it may be worse. The point is, if someone chooses not to use their right to vote for the leaders of our country they have zero right to say anything about what our leaders do.
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Agreed. I think we have hit a crossroad with voting and the outcome that voting can actually achieve. I don't think my refusal to vote for one of two puppets really diminishes my opinion. However I get your argument as well.

On a scale from 1 to 10 how corrupt do you think our collective reps are? Then do you think that applies to the candidate that you vote for? Will they be susceptible to corruption?
 
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#VFL__ said:
Okay hog this is clearly a generalization. You're smarter than that. I think we all know that none of them have the solutions anymore.
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No, they don't. I agree with that. Why? The so-called moderates. It will take some pain at all income levels to fix this mess generated by both parties. No moderate or liberal will support that.

Me, I would support a candidate/party that proposed increasing taxes if they actually had a sound plan and end game once we were back to financial stability.
 
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Gramps said:
That post right there is pure golden.

You jump my arse for supporting moderate candidates, suggesting moderates are bad for American. You then talk about a group along with yourself that supports a particular political ideology, then you post you don't vote. By not voting you do not support nor fight against any political ideology.

If you are too lazy to take yourself and vote for the candidates that support the issues that are important to you be it Conservative, Liberal or Moderate, you have no right to complain about anything our government does.

It is simple, vote or stfu.
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You've got 2 choices in politics. The prostitute with herpes or the prostitute with gonorrhea. Which one you going to bed with?

I outlined how moderates along with every party want more involvement. You either didnt read that or glossed over it. I cant help you either way.
i mentioned how i aligned with a party in my past but no longer do. Again, if you cannot comprehend what you read, i cannot help you.
It is asinine to think the only way to influence the process is by voting.

Stfu????? I would have expected better from you.
 
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Gramps said:
Wrong a moderate is someone that is smart enough to realize no one side has all the answers and are willing to work with both sides to make a better America. Look at the last few years , where has the my way or the highway attitude by both sides got us?

My way or the highway is the worse possible thing our officials can do, it shows pure ignorance.
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You are a fascinating man. The attitude your offered is wrong in its premise. It shouldnt be my way or the highway; it should be the Constitution's way or the highway. As a moderate who wants what is best for America, you should know this.
 
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hog88 said:
No, they don't. I agree with that. Why? The so-called moderates. It will take some pain at all income levels to fix this mess generated by both parties. No moderate or liberal will support that.

Me, I would support a candidate/party that proposed increasing taxes if they actually had a sound plan and end game once we were back to financial stability.
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You're right the gridlock caused by both parties and our president has broken the wheels of democracy. You say both parties have gotten us in a mess. I would agree with that as well.
So who do we really blame though? Do we blame ourselves? Do we blame "liberals" for electing one of two candidates that they see as the lesser of two evils? Do we blame the "conservative" who votes for the guy who says he will lower taxes and keep the gov out of our lives? Do we blame the poor for being a burden? Do we blame drugs?

What about if we follow the clues and really get into who and what controls our country. Would we then find an actual entity to point a finger at and say hey we finally got you? Would we as a society even accept that knowledge? Would we know what to even do with that knowledge?
 
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