Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XIV

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Coaches don't always see the obvious.

I agree with this. Husband and I have discussed that before during a football games in general, not just UT games. We point out that obvious plays that should or shouldn't be called that look obvious to us but not the coaches. Funny how that works. What are they seeing that we as fans aren't?

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't understand the Worley hate. Sure, he's had 3 bad games (although I'd argue that he had some flashes of good play in the OU game), but he's also had 4 games where he played really well, especially the UGA game. If he's 100%, I won't blame butch if he decides to put him in against USCe. I mean, it was him that lead the team to an upset win over a great USCe team last year.

I don't think is as much Worley hate as Dobbs love.

 

[snowvols]

Worley hasn't done anything to lose his job. Thing may change after Sat but y'all are setting yourself up for a meltdown when Worley is starting vs SC. Dobb's one game isn't going to out weigh Worley's body of work. Again if he's healthy Worley will start. Players don't lose jobs bc of injury. If Worley craps the bed then CBJ may elect to move forward with Dobbs. Jmo

Outside of the Utah State game, Dobbs had more total yards vs Bama than Worley had in any game this year.

 

[JAllen18]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

This is what concerns me -- that we saw one good performance but that it won't be the norm.

 

[delfonic]

What are they seeing that we as fans aren't?

I know this was a rhetorical question but I like to think that there are a ton of variables going in to on-field decisions that I just don't know enough about the subject matter to observe and recognize... for some coaches. Other coaches, however, I'm convinced are making decisions with a coin flip.

 

[jave36]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

Not a bad point. I still think it's impossible to run this offense with 0 qb keeps though, so I think there's more to it than lack of preparation by Bama. Dobbs very well could revert back, but he was a freshman, so I can't imagine he hasn't improved somewhat.

Not to mention, with this OL, speed and elusiveness might be more important than anything else.

 

[AV_12]

Worley hasn't done anything to lose his job. Thing may change after Sat but y'all are setting yourself up for a meltdown when Worley is starting vs SC. Dobb's one game isn't going to out weigh Worley's body of work. Again if he's healthy Worley will start. Players don't lose jobs bc of injury. If Worley craps the bed then CBJ may elect to move forward with Dobbs. Jmo

Let's not act like JW has an impressive résumé

 

[unioncityvol]

I don't understand the Worley hate. Sure, he's had 3 bad games (although I'd argue that he had some flashes of good play in the OU game), but he's also had 4 games where he played really well, especially the UGA game. If he's 100%, I won't blame butch if he decides to put him in against USCe. I mean, it was him that lead the team to an upset win over a great USCe team last year.

Love Worley, he got outplayed by Dobbs. That is all. Hell even Catbone thinks we have a shot now. It's so obvious that we are better with Dobbs.

 

[HialeahGator]

I think Florida loses to Georiga, South Carolina, and Florida State putting them at 5-6.

They'll beat SC. Gamecocks are bad.

The Ga and FSU aren't going to be pretty.

Somehow this team makes bowl game. Unfortunately

 

[zhangliao04]

This is what concerns me -- that we saw one good performance but that it won't be the norm.

Only way to know is to play Dobbs again. But I would bet the barn that Alabama knew he would play and practiced for both styles of QB. I'm sure Saban and Smart both know how to gameplan for something like this knowing their experience in coaching.

 

[snowvols]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

Bama has already faced quite a few mobile Qb's this year so it wasn't something new for them. Dobbs had a really good game vs Kentucky in the final game last year. Almost identical stats to the ones he put up vs Bama. He has like 130 yards rushing and has thrown for 400 in the last two he has played combined, with 4 passing td's and a rushing one.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

I know this was a rhetorical question but I like to think that there are a ton of variables going in to on-field decisions that I just don't know enough about the subject matter to observe and recognize... for some coaches. Other coaches, however, I'm convinced are making decisions with a coin flip.

Thank you for the response. Those are good observations. k:

 

[volssam]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

Yeah. Playing Ole Miss, A&M, FL, and WVA wouldn't have prepared them at all.

They have never seen the Read option this season. This was the first time they saw a mobile QB. It was completely new to them.

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[JCP201]

I am a Justin Worley Fan. He is one tough kid.. IF he is healthy, I don't mind him being out there against SC.

As far as Bama not being ready for Dobbs-- if they paid attention at all, they would have thought it a possibility and prepared for it. (I even saw twitter posts by Bama fans being a bit frightened by the fact that Dobbs might play instead of Worley) Also, I can't believe that a team like Bama couldn't adjust to a running quarterback.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

I'm sure that the Bammer defensive coaches practiced for Dobbs but they did not expect him to perform the way that he did. They thought he'd be more like Peterman and they were wrong. JMO

 

[butchna]

I don't understand the Worley hate. Sure, he's had 3 bad games (although I'd argue that he had some flashes of good play in the OU game), but he's also had 4 games where he played really well, especially the UGA game. If he's 100%, I won't blame butch if he decides to put him in against USCe. I mean, it was him that lead the team to an upset win over a great USCe team last year.

I haven't witnessed any hate...just respect for Dobbs skills. I think the Worley we witnessed at Ole Miss is the version that is currently available...injury-shellshock-whatever...It's difficult to believe a one game break resolved that.

 

[Vols4us]

Outside of the Utah State game, Dobbs had more total yards vs Bama than Worley had in any game this year.

Dobbs didn't have to play behind two true freshmen on one side of the line, one of which is a C playing OT for 3 games against Okie, UF and Ole Miss; with a converted RG laying LT. Good grief, they gave 5 sacks up to Chattanooga alone. Apples to oranges. That takes nothing away from Dobbs, he did very well and deserves to start IMO. But Worley got sabotaged by Butch and Jake IMO when you add in the ridiculous play calling during that stretch.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Dobbs will start. Why burn his redshirt? Could have let Peterman play the whole game.
If I was the coach and asked a player to burn his redshirt halfway through a season I would promise that player he had a shot at earning the starting position. Dobbs earned that shot after his performance Saturday night.

 

[nashvol1]

Hearing on the radio online saying that Dobbs only looked good because Bama wasn't prepared for him. And it's possible that Dobbs will revert to how he looked against Missou and Vandy last year.

Limited weapons against Vandy with North out and several dropped passes against Missou. We have completely different skill players this year with additions and (Wolf, Pearson, Malone, Hurd) and experience (North, Pig). Not the same team from a skills perspective.

 

[Dust10]

Worley hasn't played well since the UGA game. He was terrible against UF and Ole Miss and pretty mediocre vs Chattanooga. He has no pocket presents and is a sack waiting to happen. I doubt he ever plays a down for Tennessee again.

Dobbs is going to be the QB for the next 4 games then the next two seasons. He was better against Bama than Worley has been at any point this year.

fyp

 

[Vol knight]

Let's not act like JW has an impressive résumé

What has Dobbs done so far? Beat a UK team that lost to WKU last year?

 

[nashvol1]

Dobbs didn't have to play behind two true freshmen on one side of the line, one of which is a C playing OT for 3 games against Okie, UF and Ole Miss; with a converted RG laying LT. Good grief, they gave 5 sacks up to Chattanooga alone. Apples to oranges. That takes nothing away from Dobbs, he did very well and deserves to start IMO. But Worley got sabotaged by Butch and Jake IMO when you add in the ridiculous play calling during that stretch.

No, just a freshman and a guy with a torn ACL.

 

[nashvol1]

Everyone realizes Dobbs was a TRUE freshman last year?

 

[amazingGRACE]

Surely the Jones coach speak is just a way to not show his hand to SC. Makes them prepare for two QB's instead of one..or at least I hope that's his reasoning.

If he burns Dobbs' redshirt for one game, then sticks Worley back in for the rest of the season, people should be absolutely furious.