Dobbs worked with the 1s today!

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armchair said:
IMO, it would be stupid to play Dobbs now. You wasted a year of his eligibility playing him late last year, and you're going to do the same now?
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Agree! I truly hope it's precautionary in case both Worley and Peterman go down. There is zero point in putting Dobb's in only to possibly get hurt by a bama linebacker when we know Worley is leaving next year. Between Peterman and Dobbs I think Dobb's has the most potential of being our starter next year.
 
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Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
As I've mentioned before Dobbs played both SEC division champs last year and BAMA and still put up better numbers than Peterman. I don't know how much proof you need.
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Dobbs played vs Bama's 2nd and 3rd string when he came in. Mizzou's defense nationally wasn't that highly ranked last year. Also, I like how you justify the better numbers with multiple games vs 25 minutes for Peterman last year.
 
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Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
As I've mentioned before Dobbs played both SEC division champs last year and BAMA and still put up better numbers than Peterman. I don't know how much proof you need.
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Yeah Bama was a real pressure cooker comih in down 5 TDs in the second half with zero expectations.

And those stats produced 3 points and most of his yards were after it was obvious we were going to lose.

But YAH STATS!
 
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JMSqb11 said:
You can't argue not writing off Dobbs and then condemn Peterman to being a grocer for the rest of his life.
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I did though, because Peterman has shown no signs of being an SEC QB. He had his chance and failed utterly both times. No one expected Manning to trot on the field, but I certainly expected better than those two performances.

However, I will agree that Bajakian called terrible play for Peterman vs UGA. Peterman just has happy feet while standing in the pocket IMO.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yeah Bama was a real pressure cooker comih in down 5 TDs in the second half with zero expectations.

And those stats produced 3 points and most of his yards were after it was obvious we were going to lose.

But YAH STATS!
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Yes stats, the things that posters say you can't argue on here all the time.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Dobbs played vs Bama's 2nd and 3rd string when he came in. Mizzou's defense nationally wasn't that highly ranked last year. Also, I like how you justify the better numbers with multiple games vs 25 minutes for Peterman last year.
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It's ok, facts and context mean nothing.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Dobbs played vs Bama's 2nd and 3rd string when he came in. Mizzou's defense nationally wasn't that highly ranked last year. Also, I like how you justify the better numbers with multiple games vs 25 minutes for Peterman last year.
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Your first sentence is absolutely false. It was verified last year when someone else tried to use that argument. Just an FYI
 
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Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
I did though, because Peterman has shown no signs of being an SEC QB. He had his chance and failed utterly both times. No one expected Manning to trot on the field, but I certainly expected better than those two performances.

However, I will agree that Bajakian called terrible play for Peterman vs UGA. Peterman just has happy feet while standing in the pocket IMO.
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So 38 career minutes played is all you need to determine a player's career path? Please tell me what team you coach and what team you're the GM and what national syndicated TV show and radio show you're an analyst for.
 
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This thread is utterly insane. Shameful really. I've NEVER seen a group of posters try to tear down a guy forced to start during the latter half of a season (the worst time, FWIW, especially when you haven't been taking snaps all year) as a true freshman! He was forced to play his first snaps against Bama, then came SEC East Champ Mizzou which had a damn good defense (even so he had TDs negated due to penalties and good drives early in the game that were stalled due to penalties by older players, including Tiny who was a false start machine), then came SEC Champ and National Title Contender Auburn, and that was followed up by Vandy - a game many pointed out where we lost North and even so any one of the following plays turning out differently would've and should've made us the victors - a block in the back by Pig, a bad call by refs, the inability of our OLINE to push for a single yard, and a few others.

By the time UK rolled around DY was healthy enough to play and Devrin has always been reliable at WR. Johnathan Johnson, another solid WR, was used (he should've been sent in during the Vandy game as he has great hands but hindsight is 20/20) and Jason Croom had his break out game. Dobbs fit balls into amazingly small windows that game and that can't be written off to "oh it was Kentucky."

Fact of the matter is Dobbs should've never had to play as a true frosh let alone at that point in the season - he wasn't even an EE. And if he's forced to start against Bama, I doubt it will be great. Burning his redshirt puts him at a disadvantage in that he hasn't had snaps this year to learn our OL but if that's what we have to do then we all need to be behind him.

I would really like Peterman to be more than he's shown on the field this year and I praised his improvements as obvious in practice in the off-season, even when I was ALONE in pointing them out, but he still has the same issues in games and if the coaches think burning Dobbs' RS is worth it then it's worth it.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Your first sentence is absolutely false. It was verified last year when someone else tried to use that argument. Just an FYI
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Uh not its not. Dobbs came in down 35 when we received 2nd half kickoff. Clinton Dix and Collins and a lot of their starters were off the field.
 
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Vol_is_Lyfe18 said:
I did though, because Peterman has shown no signs of being an SEC QB. He had his chance and failed utterly both times. No one expected Manning to trot on the field, but I certainly expected better than those two performances.

However, I will agree that Bajakian called terrible play for Peterman vs UGA. Peterman just has happy feet while standing in the pocket IMO.
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I'm sorry but this is stupid. And the fact you can't understand why it's stupid tells me all I need to know.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Uh not its not. Dobbs came in down 35 when we received 2nd half kickoff. Clinton Dix and Collins and a lot of their starters were off the field.
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What if I bet you $100 I can post a video that proves Clinton Dix played in the second half?
 
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armchair said:
IMO, it would be stupid to play Dobbs now. You wasted a year of his eligibility playing him late last year, and you're going to do the same now?
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Had zero choice last year, he was the last man standing....apples and oranges imo. Is anybody, anybody really comfortable turning the fate of this season over to Peterman down the stretch? If it's only the Bama game then ok, that's a beat down loss anyway, let Peterman go and get us through that disaster. But we're still in contention for a bowl game after the Bama loss. Peterman is NOT gonna get us the 3 wins we need if Worley somehow can't finish the season.

This year, he's available if needed and he's clearly the better option to get us to 6 wins than Peterman. We have 2 young Qbs coming next year. Dobbs will still have 2 years eligibility remaining with the idea that the 2 young studs coming in next year and Kendall coming in 2016 will be ready to go after his senior year if not before.
 
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UTProf said:
This thread is utterly insane. Shameful really. I've NEVER seen a group of posters try to tear down a guy forced to start during the latter half of a season (the worst time, FWIW, especially when you haven't been taking snaps all year) as a true freshman! He was forced to play his first snaps against Bama, then came SEC East Champ Mizzou which had a damn good defense (even so he had TDs negated due to penalties and good drives early in the game that were stalled due to penalties by older players, including Tiny who was a false start machine), then came SEC Champ and National Title Contender Auburn, and that was followed up by Vandy - a game many pointed out where we lost North and even so any one of the following plays turning out differently would've and should've made us the victors - a block in the back by Pig, a bad call by refs, the inability of our OLINE to push for a single yard, and a few others.

By the time UK rolled around DY was healthy enough to play and Devrin has always been reliable at WR. Johnathan Johnson, another solid WR, was used (he should've been sent in during the Vandy game as he has great hands but hindsight is 20/20) and Jason Croom had his break out game. Dobbs fit balls into amazingly small windows that game and that can't be written off to "oh it was Kentucky."

Fact of the matter is Dobbs should've never had to play as a true frosh let alone at that point in the season - he wasn't even an EE. And if he's forced to start against Bama, I doubt it will be great. Burning his redshirt puts him at a disadvantage in that he hasn't had snaps this year to learn our OL but if that's what we have to do then we all need to be behind him.

I would really like Peterman to be more than he's shown on the field this year and I praised his improvements as obvious in practice in the off-season, even when I was ALONE in pointing them out, but he still has the same issues in games and if the coaches think burning Dobbs' RS is worth it then it's worth it.
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You mean the small windows of throwing to defensive backs and having to let Croom rip it out the UK player's hands? Those small windows?
 
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If Worley's play was especially poor I would be exited but Worley has done pretty darn good considering he gets around two seconds of protection.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
You mean the small windows of throwing to defensive backs and having to let Croom rip it out the UK player's hands? Those small windows?
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Peterman's TDs will look great...if he ever throws one.
 
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