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rjd970 said:
You do realize that a large portion of our military doesn't deal with the public everyday and have the power to find something to legally devastate one's life?

My point is higher standards across the board...education, physical, aptitude, background check, etc...should be required if they have the power to decide on the spot when to use lethal force, physical force, detain, or fine the general public.
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Wouldn't be many cops then. The ones we did have would have to get a salary increase.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Not really no.
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Whatevs. Still a black guy holding an airsoft rifle talking on his cell phone, all capital offenses. We still teach de-escalation techniques, don't we?

Look, you know I'm a supporter and I know we don't have all the facts, but this doesn't look like a good shooting to me.
 
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YorkVol said:
Whatevs. Still a black guy holding an airsoft rifle talking on his cell phone, all capital offenses. We still teach de-escalation techniques, don't we?

Look, you know I'm a supporter and I know we don't have all the facts, but this doesn't look like a good shooting to me.
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There have been several bulletins sent out in recent memory about gangs starting to paint orange tips on real weapons in order to confuse police and make them hesitate on a shoot scenario. Or even painting the entire weapon a "friendly" color like you see on many toys. And when the articles came out originally, it spoke about an individual walking around the store pointing the weapon at random people. It's been since identified as an air rifle which don't have the orange safety tip on them like Airsoft do.

The Reason article is filled with he said/she said stuff that allegedly the sister was on the phone with the perp in this case. And officers were responding to a call of an individual walking around Walmart waving a long gun at people. They arrive on scene, find a man with what appears to be a long gun. Now what caused them to fire is going to be central to this case. Because an unknown man pointing what appears to be a rifle at responding officers will be met with force. Hypothetically of course.

I'll wait for the completed investigation to get the final details correct.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Actually, we're discussing that one over in the "Gun fun from liberal left" thread. To me, that's the implementation of a really crappy NJ law rather than police misconduct.
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He made the choice to enforce an unconstitutional law. I'm assuming he was "just following orders." He has declared himself an enemy of the Constitution and the republic.

This goes back to my original point I was arguing with you a few months ago. You can't trust the police. They will enforce any law their rotten legislators pass. I have yet to see one cop stand up and say that he/she will not enforce the laws that violate the rights of citizens. In your law enforcement career, did you ever see one of your fellow officers refuse to participate in a random checkpoint?
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
He made the choice to enforce an unconstitutional law. I'm assuming he was "just following orders." He has declared himself an enemy of the Constitution and the republic.

This goes back to my original point I was arguing with you a few months ago. You can't trust the police. They will enforce any law their rotten legislators pass. I have yet to see one cop stand up and say that he/she will not enforce the laws that violate the rights of citizens. In your law enforcement career, did you ever see one of your fellow officers refuse to participate in a random checkpoint?
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We rarely did random checkpoints and only after our DUI rate skyrocketed so I might not be the best person to ask. But as a principle, nobody backed down because there were at least a half dozen people seriously injured as a part of DUI accidents and it was a drastic measure. And one that was curtailed after the rate went down.

As for the whole enemy of the State thing, really? Hollowpoints happen to be illegal in NJ as was passed by the duly elected representatives in that State. I don't agree with it on the grounds of retards passing gun control laws, but it does happen to be the law. A ban on hollowpoints isn't Unconstitutional since the Heller decision opened the door to "reasonable restrictions" at the local and State level. Again, I don't agree with it, but until NJ actually puts representatives into office that would use common sense, the retarded law will be on the books.

And if said officer refused to enforce said law? He'd have a clear conscious, but also be out of a job. I'd actually suggest joining the conversation in the other thread as you might find my stance somewhat close to what you believe.
 
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^^You had DUI checkpoints in the AF?

Man you really had to f-up comming through a Gaye to get a DUI at Ft. Campbell, or crash
 
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hog88 said:
Got of a Greyhound, had a few hours to kill before my next bus so I thought I'd stroll on down to the local watering (boobie bar) hole. Got stopped on my way.
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Hopefully it was a classy establishment like the Clairmont Lounge.
 
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hog88 said:
^^You had DUI checkpoints in the AF?

Man you really had to f-up comming through a Gaye to get a DUI at Ft. Campbell, or crash
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The ones we caught were coming out of the barracks and housing and heading downtown. Being that the clubs in Europe open later than the US, or rather get busy later, lots of folks were pre-gaming it before heading downtown.
 
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