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MG1968 said:
California wouldn't have a problem if their water infrastructure weren't so out of date. It hasn't been updated since the 1970's when it's population was around 20 million, 40 years later, the population is nearing 40 million.

And don't spew this crap about lack of water, there's an ocean just to the left.
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How can they conserve water when residents get letters from local govt about fines if their grass isn't green.

Couple who's lawn died in California drought face criminal action - Prismatic
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Is today going to be another day my AC doesn't turn on?
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Your thermostat should have a switch that you can turn it on, off or auto. You will need to set in either the on or auto position. Step two is to lower the temperature setting on the thermostat.Your AC should turn on and cool your home.





















Just kidding around with you skin. It is cool here again, it is suppose to be warming up via the cute little weather girl on channel 10.
 
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MG1968 said:
California wouldn't have a problem if their water infrastructure weren't so out of date. It hasn't been updated since the 1970's when it's population was around 20 million, 40 years later, the population is nearing 40 million.

And don't spew this crap about lack of water, there's an ocean just to the left.
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Holy sh!t batman! You solved the drought! Let's water all the crops with seawater!!

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MG1968 said:
Now you're concerned about the cost of doing something?

Desalination Worldwide « Huntington Beach Freshwater
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Of course I'm concerned about the cost. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "Going Dutch"?

Nice link to a desalination company's own website. Couldn't be a little biased? Poseidon has such a great history of 'success' (see Tampa Plant), it's a wonder they're still building new plants. Oh wait- Poseidon withdraws Huntington Beach desalination permit application; coastal commission tables vote (Update)

These plants only supplement a few cities' drinking water. There's nowhere near enough to supply the state of California's agriculture. That would require hundreds of plants (upwards of $1 billion each) supplying water at up to 10x the original cost... and that's not even considering the environmental aspects. Realistically, we'll eventually just have to abandon agriculture in the southwest. People need to learn they can't farm in the desert.

I wish to make it clear to you, there is not sufficient water to irrigate all the lands which could be irrigated, and only a small portion can be irrigated.... I tell you, gentlemen, you are piling up a heritage of conflict!
-John Wesley Powell in a speech to Los Angeles International Irrigation Conference, 1893 (prophetic, eh?)
 
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BartW said:
Of course I'm concerned about the cost. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "Going Dutch"?

Nice link to a desalination company's own website. Couldn't be a little biased?
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You're one to criticize someone's use of a potentially biased link.
 
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For reference, the Huntington Beach facility was projected to supply 50 mgd (twice as much as the next largest US plant in Tampa) which would provide drinking water to ~100,000 people in the city of San Diego. That's less than 10% of one city's drinking water. Over 80% of water usage in state of California is for agriculture.

Do the math...
 
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BartW said:
For reference, the Huntington Beach facility was projected to supply 50 mgd (twice as much as the next largest US plant in Tampa) which would provide drinking water to ~100,000 people in the city of San Diego. That's less than 10% of one city's drinking water. Over 80% of water usage in state of California is for agriculture.

Do the math...
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What would be cheaper, ceasing all agriculture in the southwest or stop wasting hundreds of billions on stupid light and high speed rail projects?
 
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BartW said:
For reference, the Huntington Beach facility was projected to supply 50 mgd (twice as much as the next largest US plant in Tampa) which would provide drinking water to ~100,000 people in the city of San Diego. That's less than 10% of one city's drinking water. Over 80% of water usage in state of California is for agriculture.

Do the math...
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8 trillion plus in six years, there's some math for ya..
 
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MG1968 said:
What would be cheaper, ceasing all agriculture in the southwest or stop wasting hundreds of billions on stupid light and high speed rail projects?
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Completely unrelated, but I'll bite. What do you have against public transportation? Do you not agree that we need to update America's crumbling infrastructure?
 
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BartW said:
Completely unrelated, but I'll bite. What do you have against public transportation? Do you not agree that we need to update America's crumbling infrastructure?
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I have nothing against public transportation that is cost effective and doesn't require taxpayer subsidies to be competitive.

And, America's infrastructure is far from "crumbling". It certainly isn't the crisis the left makes it out to be. Sure, it needs updating, but rail projects will not solve the problem. The only solution to more cars and trucks is to build more roads.
 
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MG1968 said:
What would be cheaper, ceasing all agriculture in the southwest or stop wasting hundreds of billions on stupid light and high speed rail projects?
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Agriculture is using up all of the water. Who is doing all that farming? Migrant workers..legal and illegal.

Solution?

Get rid of the migrant workers and save the planet! :good!:
 
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MG1968 said:
I have nothing against public transportation that is cost effective and doesn't require taxpayer subsidies to be competitive.

And, America's infrastructure is far from "crumbling". It certainly isn't the crisis the left makes it out to be. Sure, it needs updating, but rail projects will not solve the problem. The only solution to more cars and trucks is to build more roads.
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The only solution to more people is to build more/better roads AND rails. Do you want to vent about a specific project? Or do you just not like trains for some reason? And since when is infrastructure a partisan issue?

American Society of Civil Engineers - Infrastructure Report Card
 
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