'15 TN OT Drew Richmond (Former Ole Miss commit)

[VOLinNC]

Conner Dyer, 4-star OT from Texas, was on campus last weekend.

Brandon Kennedy, 4-star center from Alabama, visited recently as well.

Yeah but can they Rassle!?!?!?

 

[sigchig]

You graduated from Seymour in 1999? Did you play baseball/basketball/golf? One of my best friends would have played there and graduated 1997.

Yeah I graduated in 99! I didn't play any of those sports though. I only did wrestling and football before I got hurt. I more than likely was familiar with your friend though, I was fairly well known. Ask if they know a guy who was called Chig, they might recognize me.

 

[sigchig]

My point as well. Wrestling helps period. The previous examples mentioned are great proof. My son wrestled and played high school ball. What you learn in wrestling if you stick with it is invaluable to a football player. There is no valid argument against it that I have ever heard. Most young men are not encouraged to lose large amounts of weight anymore and there are actually restrictions now on how much they can lose right before a match. These are new rules to protect the wrestlers.

I'm glad somebody else understands this. Someone almost made my ignore list earlier :whistling:

 

[volssam]

Helps explain why my wife tries to pick fights with me at that "time of the month".

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[joelkthx]

Yeah but can they Rassle!?!?!?

I lolled

 

[walkenvol]

Most young men are not encouraged to lose large amounts of weight anymore and there are actually restrictions now on how much they can lose right before a match. These are new rules to protect the wrestlers.

Heavily involved in the sport my entire life and you're drinking the coolaid if you think the rules are to protect the wrestlers.

The rules were mandated by lawyers of the insurance companies to protect them and the schools from the liability/litigation if a wrestler did something completely stupid in relation to weight loss. The rules are easily and often circumnavigated and in effect useless in regard to protecting the wrestler in my experience.

Like you stated, the sport has changed concerning weight management as folks became more educated on how nutrition affects performance. You just can't compete in the sport effectively if you "starve" yourself down to make a weight as a "smaller" fit and energetic guy will wear you out. Some of the stupid things we did out of ignorance when I was young just don't happen any longer because folks know better now.

If they really want to protect the wrestlers then they will move the weigh in's as close to competition time as possible. This would make it a huge disadvantage to dehydrate by reducing the recovery time and would force the athletes to compete at a true "fighting" weight.

 

[Vol8188]

This would make it a huge disadvantage to dehydrate by reducing the recovery time and would force the athletes to compete at a true "fighting" weight.

I doubt it. Kids would just dehydrate themselves before a match, and die.

 

[sigchig]

I doubt it. Kids would just dehydrate themselves before a match, and die.

And probably lose all their muscle mass too, amirite? You are such a positive and uplifting poster, don't ever change, you! :hugs:

 

[Vol8188]

And probably lose all their muscle mass too, amirite? You are such a positive and uplifting poster, don't ever change, you! :hugs:

You're right. Fasting and dehydrating yourself are perfectly healthy.

 

[sigchig]

You're right. Fasting and dehydrating yourself are perfectly healthy.

C'mon man, not trying to rehash anything. I'm tryin' to make friends here! I gave you :hugs: lol

 

[tenn3434]

You're right. Fasting and dehydrating yourself are perfectly healthy.

More healthier than meeting a Berry over the middle!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And actually fasting can be very beneficial if done properly. Lots of guys implement intermittent fasting.

 

[dyllisvol42]

Ask a bodybuilder even though on steroids they know how to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. I know they take roids but watching what they do is pretty impressive. I know a lot of people think they are kinda dumb, by are pretty smart guys and have it down to a science with what they are putting in and taking out of there bodies.

 

[dyllisvol42]

Ask a bodybuilder even though on steroids they know how to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. I know they take roids but watching what they do is pretty impressive. I know a lot of people think they are kinda dumb, by are pretty smart guys and have it down to a science with what they are putting in and taking out of there bodies.

Also on the wrestling thing I would love to. See Richmond pull the stone cold stunner or possibly the people's elbow on somebody.

 

[Vol8188]

And actually fasting can be very beneficial if done properly. Lots of guys implement intermittent fasting.

And it does destroy muscle.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

And it does destroy muscle.

Ha not if done properly. If just any average joe does it maybe, but I don't think professional body builders would be doing anything pre show if it destroyed their muscle.

You're not gonna risk losing all those precious gains you've been making.

 

[Vol8188]

Ask a bodybuilder even though on steroids they know how to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time.

False. Most body builders have two completely seperate portions of their routine:

1. Bulking-taking in additional calories to gain muscle mass
2. Cutting-decreasing calories to cut fat.

It is extremely difficult to do both at the same time, because you need additional calories to build muscle mass.

 

[Vol8188]

Ha not if done properly. If just any average joe does it maybe, but I don't think professional body builders would be doing anything pre show if it destroyed their muscle.

You're not gonna risk losing all those precious gains you've been making.

You're simply incorrect. When you fast your body still needs amino acids. Your body robs those from your muscle cells.

 

[sigchig]

And actually fasting can be very beneficial if done properly. Lots of guys implement intermittent fasting.

I was gonna go there, but I didn't wanna get him started again like yesterday...

 

[sigchig]

Oh god, here he goes again. Bruin, is that you? Beatin' that dead horse again? :horse:

 

[walkenvol]

I doubt it. Kids would just dehydrate themselves before a match, and die.

You're right, they would dehydrate themselves then attempt to compete without the benefit of a recovery time to re-hydrate. The result would be slugishness and no endurance resulting in a very poor performance on the mat. The only "die"ing would be the athlete running completely out of energy. The athletes who trained themselves and competed at a lean, athletic, hydrated weight would then have the advantage. The sport would migrate in that direction. Already has been to a certain extent.

 

[walkenvol]

And actually fasting can be very beneficial if done properly. Lots of guys implement intermittent fasting.

They do this leading into a competition? In what sport is that? Can't be a sport requiring any type of endurance.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You're simply incorrect. When you fast your body still needs amino acids. Your body robs those from your muscle cells.

Yeah if you fasted for days at a time youd damage muscle cells, but by following IF you aren't fasting long enough to damage muscles. IF is just increasing fat oxidation for the most part, really not too different than a basic caloric restriction. But I'll go off the word and advice I've gotten from someone who actually competed professionally in the 80s than you.

Nutrition and lifting isn't a one way type of thing so people are bound to have differing opinions, there's a lot of ways to reach results you have your opinions others have theirs.

/done

 

[Dust10]

Sooooo Richmond gonna be a Vol or play for the short man?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

They do this leading into a competition? In what sport is that? Can't be a sport requiring any type of endurance.

I meant bodybuilding competitions sorry I didn't clarify.