'15 FL QB/WR/DB (anything he wants) Torrance Gibson

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eazyTD said:
OU runs a good system for TG but I just can't see him going to Norman, OK.

LSU would be a TERRIBLE fit for him imo.
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Yeah, I don't see either being a good fit. Just mentioning the schools on his top 7 who did not have a QB yet. It may very well come down to what his HS coach wanted in the 1st place and him staying home and being a cane.
 
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eazyTD said:
OU runs a good system for TG but I just can't see him going to Norman, OK.

LSU would be a TERRIBLE fit for him imo.

LV, I think we should still go all out for Gibson. He would be a boss at WR with Preston flanked on the other side and Dormady dropping bombs :)
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He may be. I tell myself a slot guy to go with Preston would be ideal. Would I complain if TG told CBJ he wanted to be a Vol and WR is fine? Not at all.
 
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eazyTD said:
OU runs a good system for TG but I just can't see him going to Norman, OK.

LSU would be a TERRIBLE fit for him imo.
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If I were in his shoes, I'd go ahead and commit to LSU. Sure, their OC is a pro style offense guy....but if you want to get to the league and be a 1st day draft pick, you WANT to play for a pro-style OC, and Cameron was a former HC (Dolphins), so he's got connections.

I'm sure they will try to utilize some packages to take advantage of his athleticism. LSU offers a better path to the league than Auburn, by far.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
He may be. I tell myself a slot guy to go with Preston would be ideal. Would I complain if TG told CBJ he wanted to be a Vol and WR is fine? Not at all.
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I'm more open to TG to WR now that we've landed Dormady. I've said all along I would be stoked for Dormady, Francois or TG and I am. Dormady wants to be a Vol, is shutting the process down and I couldn't be happier.

I noticed that both VQ and 247 suspiciously said this is our 1st QB commitment and I don't think that was an accident, which makes me wonder what the plan with JJ really is.

Either way, I'd still go after TG, tell him he will get a shot at QB but with Dormady on board now, WR is a real possibility. Obviously he's open to the idea or he wouldn't move around at camps imo.
 
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eazyTD said:
I'm more open to TG to WR now that we've landed Dormady. I've said all along I would be stoked for Dormady, Francois or TG and I am. Dormady wants to be a Vol, is shutting the process down and I couldn't be happier.

I noticed that both VQ and 247 suspiciously said this is our 1st QB commitment and I don't think that was an accident, which makes me wonder what the plan with JJ really is.

Either way, I'd still go after TG, tell him he will get a shot at QB but with Dormady on board now, WR is a real possibility. Obviously he's open to the idea or he wouldn't move around at camps imo.
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With JJ I'd guess it's because both sites list him as an ATH and not as a QB. So in their eyes, Dormady is the 1st QB commitment. They are just choosing to ignore the fact he will be a QB at UT at least early on. Their "evals" says ATH.

For me to take TG now, it would be WR only. I'd guess they gave him the chance to sign on as a QB and he chose not to at the time. Now it would be a WR offer only. If I am coaching at UT and have 4-5 great 2016 QB options who are seriously considering the Vols today, I am not going to risk striking out there by signing 3 QBs in 2015. I would not even consider it.

I get people will say, "well JJ or TG may not end up at QB". I fully understand that. The issue will be when they sign, all 3 will be "getting a chance" at QB. By the time it all works itself out, the 2016 kids could very well be committed elsewhere. As of today the 2015 QB board as a whole is just about worked itself out. Consider if it were June 10th 2015 today. It's very likely Dobbs, Peterman, Dormady, Jennings, and Gibson would all still be competing as QBs and 2016 QBs still see UT as having took 3 in 2015. Huge disadvantage to get one for 2016 IMO.

Only other option IMO would be the staff straight up told JJ he would not be a QB and would play S at Tennessee day 1. And IMO that's not happening.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
If I were in his shoes, I'd go ahead and commit to LSU. Sure, their OC is a pro style offense guy....but if you want to get to the league and be a 1st day draft pick, you WANT to play for a pro-style OC, and Cameron was a former HC (Dolphins), so he's got connections.

I'm sure they will try to utilize some packages to take advantage of his athleticism. LSU offers a better path to the league than Auburn, by far.
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LSU during the Miles era has been a place where DT QBs go to die. He hasn't shown in the past that he will alter his offense to utilize his running QB's strengths. I've always been amazed that they made it to the NCG a couple of years ago with their trainwreck of a QB situation (trying to turn Jordan Jefferson into Jamarcus Russell).

Now, things may be different with Cam Cameron at OC. It's hard to tell because the only QB he's coached at LSU was Mettenberger. Gibson would learn a ton under Cam, no doubt but the read option is what makes Gibson so lethal and I saw none of that in the past 2 years with Cam there. Mettenberger wasn't a burner but he is fairly mobile and I can't recall them ever running a read option in the past 2 years.
 
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k-town_king said:
TG is still the number one qb. Dormady is insurance in case we can't get him.
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I don't believe this is the case anymore. I completely agree with LV on this one. Dormady showed up early for his visit, stayed 2 days longer than expected to show out for Gruden and the coaches, and earned his spot. I think the coaches like how he fits in the system better and that he's a better pure passer. I think he replaced TG on the board by showing that he deserved it. Maybe he was 1b and when TG was pushed to commit and wouldn't, then Butch welcomed QD to the class.

Either way doesn't matter. QD is our pure QB for this class, and he won't be asked to look around if TG still wants to come here. Agree with LV again that no way we take 3 potential QBs this class. If the coaches still want TG, then I think the pitch changes to being a part of WRU now. JMO.
 
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: Putting my flame suit on :

If TG ends up wanting to commit, Dormady doesn't get the bump, JJ is asked if he wants to move to defense.
 
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eazyTD said:
OU runs a good system for TG but I just can't see him going to Norman, OK.

LSU would be a TERRIBLE fit for him imo.

LV, I think we should still go all out for Gibson. He would be a boss at WR with Preston flanked on the other side and Dormady dropping bombs :)
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I think that's the only way we continue to recruit TG now...as a WR. That's what OSU is apparently recruiting him to play. For some reason I have this gut feeling that his HS coach ends up pushing him to Miami.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
I don't believe this is the case anymore. I completely agree with LV on this one. Dormady showed up early for his visit, stayed 2 days longer than expected to show out for Gruden and the coaches, and earned his spot. I think the coaches like how he fits in the system better and that he's a better pure passer. I think he replaced TG on the board by showing that he deserved it. Maybe he was 1b and when TG was pushed to commit and wouldn't, then Butch welcomed QD to the class.

Gibson showed he wanted by making it from SF with no ride and doing all he can to get here.

CBJ said to TG he is the perfect fit and has described his perfect fit as someone mobile with a big arm like TG. The jury is still out on who passes better. The experts say TG passes great and is at least a 4 star as just a qb. We will see if QD is a consensus 4 star qb after this year.


Either way doesn't matter. QD is our pure QB for this class, and he won't be asked to look around if TG still wants to come here. Agree with LV again that no way we take 3 potential QBs this class. If the coaches still want TG, then I think the pitch changes to being a part of WRU now. JMO.
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I never said they would tell him to look around. If you think they are not still recruiting TG hard and telling him he is still number 1 you are crazy. He knew schools would be bringing in qbs waiting so long to commit. I bet Jones takes his commit regardless of Dormady getting his feeling hurt over it.
 
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Give me Quinton over Torrance. End of story.

Now i'm not against taking TG as insurance... but Quinton is legit. The kid lives and breathes the game. He's more concerned about building the program he signs with and is not a fan of the "process".
 
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k-town_king said:
I never said they would tell him to look around. If you think they are not still recruiting TG hard and telling him he is still number 1 you are crazy. He knew schools would be bringing in qbs waiting so long to commit. I bet Jones takes his commit regardless of Dormady getting his feeling hurt over it.
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They will still recruit him, but I don't think as hard unless they are trying to sell him on WR. Just don't see us taking 3 guys and telling them that all 3 will get a shot to play QB.
 
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eazyTD said:
LSU during the Miles era has been a place where DT QBs go to die. He hasn't shown in the past that he will alter his offense to utilize his running QB's strengths. I've always been amazed that they made it to the NCG a couple of years ago with their trainwreck of a QB situation (trying to turn Jordan Jefferson into Jamarcus Russell).

Now, things may be different with Cam Cameron at OC. It's hard to tell because the only QB he's coached at LSU was Mettenberger. Gibson would learn a ton under Cam, no doubt but the read option is what makes Gibson so lethal and I saw none of that in the past 2 years with Cam there. Mettenberger wasn't a burner but he is fairly mobile and I can't recall them ever running a read option in the past 2 years.
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I follow the draft closely every year (as it relates to the Titans, mostly), and Mettenberger was rising up the boards late. Many analysts had him going in the 2nd Rd.

Problem was, he had/has ongoing back issues....so, he fell, like Tiny, because of health reasons, alone. Now that we have moved on from TG, I'd like to see him go to LSU, so he can whoop up on Bama every year (hopefully). Auburn really doesn't need him much, in that run-heavy offense.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
They will still recruit him, but I don't think as hard unless they are trying to sell him on WR. Just don't see us taking 3 guys and telling them that all 3 will get a shot to play QB.
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I think we've moved on...just like I thought we would, sometime during the summer.

He still has a lot of options to play QB, but this should serve him notice that doors are closing fast, and waiting until after the season starts or later, will leave him with only a few options to choose from.

I'm sorry, but I've just got to say it...this was a pi$$-poor decision on TG's part, to drag his decision out as long as possible. Totally uninformed or naive to think major programs are going to wait in line for his services.

This would be like having your pick of girls to take to the prom, but your dick!ng around until the last minute, leaves you with only a handful that nobody asked (to go with them).
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Nope. If he knew he was headed for AU or LSU all this time, he wouldn't be trying to make it to UT's QB camp on his own coin, and other visits.

Fact is, he thought (wrongly) that teams would just wait on his decision, regardless. He got a cold bucket of reality last night. It's a long drive back, knowing you not only missed Gruden's camp, but you missed the boat if UT was indeed a co-leader.
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It wasn't on his own coin. Also Gibson still has the chance to commit, Hubbs has said as much.
 
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UT's#1Fan said:
Give me Quinton over Torrance. End of story.

Now i'm not against taking TG as insurance... but Quinton is legit. The kid lives and breathes the game. He's more concerned about building the program he signs with and is not a fan of the "process".
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I agree with you 100%.

I'll take QD's personality and mindset over someone like TG any day of the week
 
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At the end of the day his top schools all have 1 for sure QB committed. I personally feel will have 2 because I like Jennings potential and work ethic but outside view says we have 1.

Auburn is in same boat as us with a for sure QB and then a Juco similar to Jennings situation but they also have Jeremy Johnson waiting in the wings that will start for two years then they have Sean White top elite 11 star. Your looking at potentially not starting till your RS Jr or sr yr.

OSU has recruited QBs with same skill set each year including this year.

TN should still be his most attractive suitor if he really looks deep into the details. Dormandy has different skill set. Jennings is closest to his skill set but could play another position. Legit shot to be 2 deep his freshman year and one injury away from starter if he was to beat out Q and J
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I think we've moved on...just like I thought we would, sometime during the summer.

He still has a lot of options to play QB, but this should serve him notice that doors are closing fast, and waiting until after the season starts or later, will leave him with only a few options to choose from.

I'm sorry, but I've just got to say it...this was a pi$$-poor decision on TG's part, to drag his decision out as long as possible. Totally uninformed or naive to think major programs are going to wait in line for his services.

This would be like having your pick of girls to take to the prom, but your dick!ng around until the last minute, leaves you with only a handful that nobody asked (to go with them).
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All signs say we have not moved on and are pursuing him just as hard. This may shock you but any school he picks will welcome him with open arms regardless of who is committed. You don't pass up the number one target because someone lower on your list commits earlier.
 
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I do not think you will see us recruit TG as a WR. I think he will continue to be recruited as an ATH or QB. I think ATH is much more likely though. The fact that QD is being touted as the first QB commit tells me all I need to know. However once they are all 3 on campus ( if they all 3 sign ) I do not think it will take long for TG to see his best position is WR.
 
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