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jave36 said:
One good recruiting class doesn't give us more talent than anyone else. If you believe that, you believe Dooley was an elite recruiter and left Butch top of the SEC talent.
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2 Butch classes in and they make up well over half our schollies if I'm not mistaken. While Dools wasn't great a few of his recruits on the team are still capable just a short list: Pig, Croom, Randolph, Johnson, Maggitt, Crowder, Jackson, Saulsberry.

While no we aren't going to win every game with young talent, would you seriously say UGA seriously out-talents us on paper? UF? SCar? I think we are at least comparable to those teams
 
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OddFuture said:
2 Butch classes in and they make up well over half our schollies if I'm not mistaken. While Dools wasn't great a few of his recruits on the team are still capable just a short list: Pig, Croom, Randolph, Johnson, Maggitt, Crowder, Jackson, Saulsberry.

While no we aren't going to win every game with young talent, would you seriously say UGA seriously out-talents us on paper? UF? SCar? I think we are at least comparable to those teams
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I'd say most of our opponents do on both lines, most do at QB, and we're even at best at LB/secondary, but we're probably worse there too. If you're talking about potential and not talent, then maybe our Lbs and secondary pull even or ahead. There's a reason elite teams have very few freshmen playing, freshmen don't have the ability of upper classmen as a whole.
 
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jave36 said:
I'd say most of our opponents do on both lines, most do at QB, and we're even at best at LB/secondary, but we're probably worse there too. If you're talking about potential and not talent, then maybe our Lbs and secondary pull even or ahead. There's a reason elite teams have very few freshmen playing, freshmen don't have the ability of upper classmen as a whole.
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First, your mixing experience and talent. Also, every team in the east is flawed next year. I'm not going to do a roster by roster breakdown to verify, but it wouldn't surprise me if we were pretty close to even with everyone else. UGA has had tons of transfers, FL has miserable skill position players, and USC and Missouri graduated a ton of good players.

We'll be younger than any team in the SEC, but our talent will be on par with others IMO.
 
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jjay2518 said:
First, your mixing experience and talent. Also, every team in the east is flawed next year. I'm not going to do a roster by roster breakdown to verify, but it wouldn't surprise me if we were pretty close to even with everyone else. UGA has had tons of transfers, FL has miserable skill position players, and USC and Missouri graduated a ton of good players.

We'll be younger than any team in the SEC, but our talent will be on par with others IMO.
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Your definition of talent is my definition of potential. You can't definitively say someone is a talented college football player unless they've actually played college football.
 
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jave36 said:
Your definition of talent is my definition of potential. You can't definitively say someone is a talented college football player unless they've actually played college football.
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Talent does not equate production so IMO talent and potential are very similar things. If the talented players are properly brought up by a coach in a system that works well for them production will follow.
 
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jave36 said:
Your definition of talent is my definition of potential. You can't definitively say someone is a talented college football player unless they've actually played college football.
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Unfortunately true. A lot of people are banking on every one of our freshman being all SEC type players. Some of these guys will leave the program & bust just like every other class.

We'll be back in our rightful place among the college football greats soon, it just won't be this year.
 
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jjay2518 said:
First, your mixing experience and talent. Also, every team in the east is flawed next year. I'm not going to do a roster by roster breakdown to verify, but it wouldn't surprise me if we were pretty close to even with everyone else. UGA has had tons of transfers, FL has miserable skill position players, and USC and Missouri graduated a ton of good players.

We'll be younger than any team in the SEC, but our talent will be on par with others IMO.
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If you are talking talent in our starters, maybe. But that's debatable. Once you talk about depth that's where the talent drop off is still severe. We need another one or two good recruiting classes before we catch the upper tier SEC programs IMO.
 
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jave36 said:
Your definition of talent is my definition of potential. You can't definitively say someone is a talented college football player unless they've actually played college football.
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I would say talent and potential are very closely related. Also since the original post talked about winning with "young talent", which IMO implies a similar meaning, that's what I went with.
 
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vol2002 said:
If you are talking talent in our starters, maybe. But that's debatable. Once you talk about depth that's where the talent drop off is still severe. We need another one or two good recruiting classes before we catch the upper tier SEC programs IMO.
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Actually yes, I meant to caveat that by saying starting talent but apparently I didn't actually include that.
 
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Details of Gruden's possible appearance remain unclear, but Tennessee coach Butch Jones' staff added a one-day quarterback camp on June 7 to its camp schedule for this year.

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