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Evolution =/= atheism

I'm an agnostic myself but I've done enough critical thinking that I recognize the two are not mutually exclusive. God could have used evolution to create life on earth.

My impression of BartW:

"You're question is retarded. I'm a scientist. You're a conspiracy theorist if you oppose public policy based on inconclusive science.

See how stupid you are and how smart and sophisticated I am?"

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He's not that smart. His statement is wrong. All Darwinists are atheists and believe in abiogenesis. But Creationism can include evolution.
 
That Buster meme is a keeper :)
He's not that smart. His statement is wrong. All Darwinists are atheists and believe in abiogenesis. But Creationism can include evolution.
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Another BS marxist lying ass article on climate change. When we finally have the marxist government that they want then we'll see how well they like it.

How climate change will hurt the U.S. - Slide Show - MarketWatch
Another thing to consider as you gloss over SandVol's relentless anti-environmental stereotyping is that an acual statist would advocate command and control regulation, not market-based solutions like cap-and-trade (a proven, successful, Republican idea).
 
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Aussies To Slash 90% Of Global Warming Funding From Budget | The Daily Caller

The carbon tax was imposed by former Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard in the summer of 2012, and quickly became unpopular as businesses and households began to bear the costs of higher power bills and higher inflation.

“Poor policy processes tend to lead to poor policy outcomes,” wrote Dr. Alex Robson, an economist at Australia’s University of Brisbane, in a study prepared for the Institute for Energy Research, which opposes a carbon tax. “Australia’s carbon tax experience provides a number of important lessons in how not to go about implementing sensible climate change policy.”

After just one year, the carbon tax increased taxes on 2.2 million Australians, according to Robson, and has done nothing to decrease the country’s carbon emissions, which aren’t predicted to fall below current levels until 2043.

Robson also found that a year after being enacted, the carbon tax caused electricity prices to rise 15 percent. The country’s unemployment rate shot up by 10 percent after the carbon tax was implemented.

“The carbon tax is bad for the economy and it doesn’t do any good for the environment,” Abbott told The Washington Post last year. “Despite a carbon tax of $37 a ton by 2020, Australia’s domestic emissions were going up, not down. The carbon tax was basically socialism masquerading as environmentalism, and that’s why it’s going to get abolished.”
 
That Buster meme is a keeper :)

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Another thing to consider as you gloss over SandVol's relentless anti-environmental stereotyping is that an acual statist would advocate command and control regulation, not market-based solutions like cap-and-trade (a proven, successful, Republican idea).

So what? A lot of bad ideas come from Republicans. Usually some dumb ass RINO's attempt to appease liberals. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.
 
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I'd take those numbers with a grain of salt. Tony Abbott has a bad track record with... ya know... facts. He's been amusing. I almost wish I lived there so I could witness their political theater firsthand. Dude's only been in office 8 months and his approval rating is already lower than Obama's ever has been.

Considering the backlash both domestically and internationally I doubt that budget gets past their senate.
 
So what? A lot of bad ideas come from Republicans. Usually some dumb ass RINO's attempt to appease liberals. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin.

Ronald Reagan was a dumb ass RINO? Who knew?

The point is that:
an acual statist would advocate command and control regulation, not market-based solutions like cap-and-trade

Your mudslinging fails.
 
Ronald Reagan was a dumb ass RINO? Who knew?

The point is that:


Your mudslinging fails.

You just blab anything. Did you get that from your buddy John? Is he the same guy who told you about the 97% consensus? Besides, CO2 isn't a pollutant so we don't need cap and anything.
 
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Yep, your tax dollars at work...

Taxpayers Paid $5.6 Million for Climate Change Games | Washington Free Beacon

Taxpayers paid more than $5 million to create climate change games, including voicemails from the future warning that “neo-luddites” will kill global warming enthusiasts by 2035.

Columbia University’s Climate Center has received $5.7 million from the National Science Foundation for the university’s “PoLAR Climate Change Education Partnership,” to “engage adult learners and inform public understanding and response to climate change.”
 
Maybe he's implying that the left has to lie.

"FT dropped a bombshell Friday afternoon with allegations that economist Thomas Piketty, author of the bestselling Capitalism in the 21st Century, contains a number of serious data errors — enough, it claims, to invalidate his thesis on rising wealth inequality."

"While many are questioning FT’s claims, some conservatives are having a field day. And a select few, apparently caught up in the headiness of the moment, are making this wrongheaded, inexplicable leap: that if Piketty was wrong (perhaps intentionally) about wealth inequality, that somehow makes it easier to believe that the world’s top climate scientists, and over 40 years of climate research, are wrong about global warming, too."

"Behold the lunacy"

Conservative wingnuts: Piketty allegations prove global warming’s a hoax - Salon.com
 
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You just blab anything. Did you get that from your buddy John? Is he the same guy who told you about the 97% consensus? Besides, CO2 isn't a pollutant so we don't need cap and anything.

Bla bla bla deflections. Just answer the question. Was Ronald Reagan a RINO? How about George Bush?

Do you even understand the difference between command & control regulation vs. market based systems?
 
Pope at Audience: If we destroy Creation, it will destroy us

We are Custodians of Creation. But when we exploit Creation we destroy the sign of God’s love for us, in destroying Creation we are saying to God: “I don’t like it!. This is not good!” “So what do you like?” “I like myself!” – Here, this is sin! Do you see? Custody of Creation is custody of God’s gift to us and it is also a way of saying thank you to God. I am the master of Creation but to carry it forward I will never destroy your gift. And this should be our attitude towards Creation. Safeguard Creation. Because if we destroy Creation, Creation will destroy us! Never forget this!

Pontifical Academy of Sciences statement on Sustainable Humanity, Sustainable Nature: Our Responsibility

Today we have changed our natural environment to such an extent that scientists are redefining the current period as the Age of the Anthropocene, that is to say an age when human action, through the use of fossil fuels, is having a decisive impact on the planet. If current trends continue, this century will witness unprecedented climate changes and ecosystem destruction that will severely impact us all.

The massive fossil fuel use at the heart of the global energy system deeply disrupts the Earth’s climate and acidifies the world’s oceans. The warming and associated extreme weather will reach unprecedented levels in our children’s life times and 40% of the world’s poor, who have a minimal role in generating global pollution, are likely to suffer the most.

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