Gun control debate (merged)

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#126
FLVOL69 said:
That's what happens when liberals are running the schools ..and it's ****ing nuts!
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If the student had just prefaced the psychological evaluation with the statement, "Marxism will be our ultimate salvation", he could have saved himself a lot of grief.
 
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#127
#127
hndog609 said:
100% chance that before the first one hits the streets the government would be able to disable anyone or everyone's chip at any time.
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I was thinking the same thing - since it is a wireless connection I would imagine LEO (Feds at least) would have a disabling capability - something like a near-field EMP.

All in the name of safety of course.
 
#131
#131
I'm thinking he probably wants a tracking bracelet on all gun owners so they know where all gun owners are at all times!

my problem with this new tech is what happens if say a husband has the bracelet on and forgets to take it off and leaves home.
Bad guy(s) breaks in home and wife/kids goes for the gun to protect themselves and the gun doesn't work because they didn't have the bracelet.

The same thing with these finger print/DNA scan tech that guns will only work if the right finger print touches the trigger!
 
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#137
Not going to be long before Obama and company get on the news screaming about the NRA and the "gun show loophole" even though most have no idea what that actually is.

Stand-in purchase of guns in Johnson County shootings is a puzzle - KansasCity.com

Investigators tracing the source of the guns allegedly used by the felon think he was aided by a straw buyer who could clear background checks likely to foil Miller, said a law enforcement official familiar with the case.

The law enforcement source, who insisted upon anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said local police and agents from the FBI and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives are trying to locate the middleman.
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#139
ATF, Chicago Columnist Whine About Alpha Girls Firearms Fashion Show
ATF, Chicago Columnist Whine About Alpha Girls Firearms Fashion Show


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Karen Bartuch is a former Chicago law enforcement officer (police work runs in the family, her brother is a cop too) who has worked everything from patrol, gang and tactical teams, undercover, surveillance, intelligence and counter-terrorism to serving as a policy advisor to the superintendent of police. She's also the founder and CEO of Alpha Girls LLC and the Women's Tactical Association, a self-defense training company specifically focused on teaching women the skills they need to defend themselves.

AlphaGirls, LLC is about empowering women, of all ages, through education (i.e., skills training both mental and physical, events, gear, etc.). All “bad guys” are looking for victims, not opponents and AlphaGirls ARE NEVER VICTIMS! AlphaGirls will bring out the "alpha" trait in you thereby positively impacting all aspects of your life! Join us today!
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Bartuch is hosting her annual Firearms & Fashion show this weekend to raise money for the Chicago-Police Memorial Fund. Each year Bartuch teams up with the company Nickel & Lace in order to show women what their concealed carry options are while wearing a dress or curve hugging clothing.

Carol Marin is a political columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times, a political editor for NBC5 News and a contributor to WTTW's Chicago Tonight. Marin is baffled by Bartuch's event and apparently doesn't understand the difference between violent Chicago thugs and women hosting a firearms and fashion show in the Windy City. Writing in the Chicago Sun-Times, Marin lumps in fashion show participants and attendees with gangsters shooting teenaged girls in the streets:

Former Chicago Police Supt. Phil Cline heads the foundation. I called him to ask if there isn’t an odd disconnect between the bloody reality of this city and a police fundraiser where guns are accessorized with spandex.
In a city that can’t shake its shooting reputation, here we have a firearms/fashion show billed as a way to “empower women.” And it comes just days after a 14-year-old girl was shot and killed by another 14-year-old girl who will never grow up to be a woman.

Hey, no worries.
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There's a disconnect between "the bloody reality of this city and a police fundraiser where guns are accessorized with spandex," because there was never a connection in the first place. Law abiding women with firearms are completely unrelated and in no way connected to the "bloody reality" Marin writes about.

"It is typical of a left-wing liberal so-called journalist to misrepresent facts and stir up unnecessary fear in order to push their anti-gun agendas. The violence in Chicago is due to a people problem, not a gun problem," Bartuch told me in response to Marin's piece. "If Carol Marin would dig into the facts she would be able to report accurately and be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. Our mission is to empower women and teach them self-protection skills, we are part of the solution."

Naturally, Marin also got in touch with her buddies at ATF, who gladly offered up their opinion about what firearms do and do not have a place in the hands of law abiding citizens or "urban society."

I asked current and former ATF agents Tom Ahern and Mike Casali to view a YouTube video of last year’s firearms/fashion event to help me identify the weapons on the gun company display tables that, amid the open bars and babes, dotted the room. They saw what appeared to be a .50-caliber Barrett assault rifle and a Glock semi-automatic pistol.

“We had four agents fired on in Waco, Texas, with a .50-caliber rifle like that. It blew out the engine block of their truck,” Casali said.

“There’s no place in urban society for a weapon like that,” Ahern said.

But there is in a fashion and firearms show.

And it’s legal.

Just like the handgun used to kill that 14-year-old girl once was.

Legal.
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Girls and a gun show? Marin and her liberal Chicago whiners just can't handle it.



Can't take these guns...@AlphaGirls6 @WomensTactical @BradThor pic.twitter.com/lo6ig4jqs5
— Karen Bartuch (@KarenBartuch) May 5, 2014
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#141
#141
Karen Bartuch is smoking hot.

More than a few good looking women in the shooting industry. Julie Golob, Tori Nonaka (when she finally turns 18 lol) Jessie Duff, Maria Harbin, Michelle Viscusi...

The list could go on.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Karen Bartuch is smoking hot.

More than a few good looking women in the shooting industry. Julie Golob, Tori Nonaka (when she finally turns 18 lol) Jessie Duff, Maria Harbin, Michelle Viscusi...

The list could go on.
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Your crazy, women using guns and being a part of the gun industry! That's just NRA propaganda!! :lol:
 
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#144
And just because we've probably got some old timers around this joint that can't live without their wheel guns I'll give you Kenda Lenseigne, world champion mounted shooter.

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Grand Vol said:
And just because we've probably got some old timers around this joint that can't live without their wheel guns I'll give you Kenda Lenseigne, world champion mounted shooter.

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"Mounted shooter"...now there's an interesting turn of phrase.
 
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#147
Didn't know what thread to put this and didn't want to start one for it.

Video: Waffle House Burglar Shot, Killed by Concealed Carry Permit Holder

Video: Waffle House Burglar Shot, Killed by Concealed Carry Permit Holder

A surveillance video of an attempted robbery of a Spartanburg, South Carolina, Waffle House shows 19-year-old Dante Williams pointing a gun at customers, then being shot dead by concealed carry permit holder Justin Harrison.

The attempted robbery took place in January 2012, but video from it was just obtained by FOX Carolina.

After Williams walked into the Waffle House, he held out a gun, and he and accomplice Jawan Craig yelled, "Everybody get down, get down." Everybody complied except Harrison, who continued sitting on a bar stool with his breakfast in front of him.

Harrison said he made up his mind he was "not getting on the floor," that he was "not going to be a victim."

He said the two robbers "terrorized" the other customers, and then Williams began walking in his direction. Harrison said, "This was the only time. If I am going to fight it was that one time. He was approaching me and I saw that as him engaging me."

Harrison drew his gun and shot Williams, killing him "almost instantly."

Craig then tried to wrestle the gun out of Harrison's hand before finally fleeing. He was arrested and convicted in the burglary.

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#148
Nothing to see here...

ATF quietly laying groundwork to expand multiple rifle sales reporting - National gun rights | Examiner.com

A little noticed and virtually unreported April 15 notice posted in the Federal Register suggests the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco Firearms and Explosives intends expanding the multiple rifle sale requirement currently imposed on four border states (Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas) to all states.

Titled “Agency Information Collection Activities; Proposed eCollection eComments Requested; Report of Multiple Sale or Other Disposition of Certain Rifles,” and assigned OMB Number 1140–0100, the 60-day notice abstract declares “The purpose of this information collection is to require Federal Firearms Licensees to report multiple sales or other dispositions whenever the licensee sells or otherwise disposes of two or more rifles within any five consecutive business days with the following characteristics: (a) Semi automatic; (b) a caliber greater than .22; and (c) the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
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#149
#149
Love this quote coming from a DEM--

Congressman Larry McDonald (D-GA) said:


We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.
 
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