I'm not worried a bit about Tyndall...

[jp1]

1. I've given credit to him, if you need links they're there.

2. I call it like I see it, sorry.

3. Not sure why it's creepy. Someone in the AD who gave me 1 from Pat, 1 from Bruce and 1 from Martin gave me this one from Tyndall. Not sure which part is creepy, but ok.

1. Your famous line......link?

2. What exactly are you calling like you see it?

3. Keep thumping the chest.

 

[volbeast33]

Like I said, I'm going the opposite extreme of the "let's build this guy a statue" crowd.

Nobody has raised the guy a statue....I even stated that I like his history and would give a true opinion on how he is doing after his second yr.

U r using revisionist history regarding Zo....I bumped to show u that it was at least 90% positive over Zo's initial recruits....after Zo's first yr it was horrible In here hearing all the Zo washes his hands after he uses the bathroom so glad he is our coach talk....After/ during his second yr the criticism started to grow but their was some optimism going into yr three....by the middle of yr three most fans had turned against him.

 

[NYC Vol]

My issue is that if you're gonna have standards for 1 coach why not both?

If NCAAT 1/3 years and Sweet 16 isn't gods enough for Zo to have peoples support, why is 1/3 NCAAT good enough for Tyndall?

If not landing guys who are top 100 players with a great offer list is a knock on Zo, why wouldn't it be on Tyndall as well?

Have I gone to some extremes, absolutely, but it's to counteract the complete opposite extremes some of gone to. I just don't get the double standard at play here.

I'm just going to assume that you're smart enough to know the real answers to your dumb questions.

In case you're not, the answer is that expectations aren't different. Most of us have the same REALISTIC expectations. I expect us to go to the tourney and compete for the SEC in football (obviously not tourney) and basketball year in and year out....when the coach has a chance to get the talent level up following the previous abortion of a coach.
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[NYC Vol]

No it's not, maybe I know this the same way I knew all 4 were asking for their release prior to anyone else?

So he ran off all 4 but now he's begging Cofer to come back? Your genius knows no bounds.

You shouldn't assume you have better connections than others. Maybe you should type less and listen more to people with factual info like the guy on this board that said Thompson was looking to transfer 2 weeks ago. Trolling message boards for info doesn't make you an insider.
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[Velo Vol]

Is anyone left on the team today?

 

[SeniorDrill]

Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange View Post
What I find funny is everyone wants to point to USM as the track record if this great plan, why not look at the other place he walked into and used this plan? Won 12 games year 1, 15 games year 2 and in year 3 won 20 games and made the NCAAT for the first time.
Let me apologize in advance if my hopes for Tennessee are greater than that.

What you conveniently omit is that in year 2, the 15 win season, he was the Ohio Valley Conference Coach of the Year!

 

[Spartacavolus]

Is anyone left on the team today?

Not yet, but my sources say that if one does, it will happen. If it doesn't happen, it won't. I have signed basketballs dammit, so I know.

 

[jp1]

Not yet, but my sources say that if one does, it will happen. If it doesn't happen, it won't. I have signed basketballs dammit, so I know.

I noticed the plural form of basketball in your post. You obviously have connections in the AD. Did your said connection come running with this basketball in the first 2 weeks of the new coach on the job? If not, could you go sit quietly in the peon section of this fine message board.

 

[butchna]

My issue is that if you're gonna have standards for 1 coach why not both?

If NCAAT 1/3 years and Sweet 16 isn't gods enough for Zo to have peoples support, why is 1/3 NCAAT good enough for Tyndall?

If not landing guys who are top 100 players with a great offer list is a knock on Zo, why wouldn't it be on Tyndall as well?

Have I gone to some extremes, absolutely, but it's to counteract the complete opposite extremes some of gone to. I just don't get the double standard at play here.

Nobody cheered/supported WHEN he made the TOURNEY and Sweet 16? :huh:

You do break with the news! :good!:

 

[bleedingTNorange]

So he ran off all 4 but now he's begging Cofer to come back? Your genius knows no bounds.

You shouldn't assume you have better connections than others. Maybe you should type less and listen more to people with factual info like the guy on this board that said Thompson was looking to transfer 2 weeks ago. Trolling message boards for info doesn't make you an insider.
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Copy and paste the same question on 3 different message boards, it's apparently fun

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Nobody cheered/supported WHEN he made the TOURNEY and Sweet 16? :huh:

You do break with the news! :good!:

Reading comprehension, it's lacking.

 

[OldandStillaVol]

My issue is that if you're gonna have standards for 1 coach why not both?

If NCAAT 1/3 years and Sweet 16 isn't gods enough for Zo to have peoples support, why is 1/3 NCAAT good enough for Tyndall?

If not landing guys who are top 100 players with a great offer list is a knock on Zo, why wouldn't it be on Tyndall as well?

Have I gone to some extremes, absolutely, but it's to counteract the complete opposite extremes some of gone to. I just don't get the double standard at play here.

We get that you feel CCM was unfairly treated here. But what is the point of taking shots at the current coach before he's been here a month? Let it play out.

I know you follow basketball a ton and are a UT fan. My advice would be to stick with the honest player and coaching assessments without constantly bringing up CCM. It will play much, much better.

 

[Burger]

So what were complaining about is that Martin's recruits, who yall said were not good in the first place, are leaving. So Tyndall has the chance to fill the roster with his own dudes. Isn't that great, instead of playing with stumpy.

 

[lonelawyer]

We have one group of posters that preaches the message of "Good riddance!". We have another group that screams "the sky is falling". Who knows who's right?

I don't like to see these kids run away because their feelings are hurt or because the only loyalty they felt was to a particular coach.

On the other hand it's silly of the fans to not recognize that most coaches use a foxhole mentality to create team spirit and that this is a natural progression of that mentality.

The problem is that there seems to be something more going on here.

I don't know if it's genuine love for Coach Martin.
I don't know if there's a racial component.
I don't know if there's dislike for Coach Tyndall or his perceived methods.

I just want the bleeding to stop and UT sports to become fun again.

 

[jp1]

So what were complaining about is that Martin's recruits, who yall said were not good in the first place, are leaving. So Tyndall has the chance to fill the roster with his own dudes. Isn't that great, instead of playing with stumpy.

No offense, but could you restate your comment?

 

[Burger]

No offense, but could you restate your comment?

Ok, no offense taken. There are a lot of people on here with their jimmies rustled about players leaving. It seems like people did not want some of these guys when Cuonzo was here. Now their angry because all of zo's former recruits are leaving.

I say this opens a new door of opportunity for us.

 

[jp1]

Ok, no offense taken. There are a lot of people on here with their jimmies rustled about players leaving. It seems like people did not want some of these guys when Cuonzo was here. Now their angry because all of zo's former recruits are leaving.

I say this opens a new door of opportunity for us.

Gotcha. I dont like seeing current players leave, but in basketball especially it happens. Hopefully all this works out for both parties.

 

[orangeluvr]

CDT is recruiting scorers, Punter =57% FG. :good!:

 

[HBCButch]

...and that reason is the guy has a plan. He's not panicking at what is going on with the roster because the guy has a plan. Our previous guy's plan was go to China his first offseason when he had 2 guys decommit. Tyndall has been through this already at S. Miss and he knows what to do.

It's hard to put into words how bad our previous staff was. People think it's hate. Not at all. It was just that they were so poorly prepared for anything that they encountered. I know it's time to move but it's tough to without recognizing the difference between this staff and the previous one.

I don't remember a mass exodus when the last guy came in though. Tyndall is whiffing badly at this point regarding the commits(all lost) and even with guys who were on the team. He's striking out like Dan Uggla.

 

[ranradVOL]

Is anyone left on the team today?

Short answer..not really.

 

[ranradVOL]

I don't remember a mass exodus when the last guy came in though. Tyndall is whiffing badly at this point regarding the commits(all lost) and even with guys who were on the team. He's striking out like Dan Uggla.

Exactly. People are acting as if this is normal. It absolutely us not.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Exactly. People are acting as if this is normal. It absolutely us not.

I've asked no less than 5 times, if attrition like this is the norm please provide some examples of other coaching changes resulting in losing 7 players....

Heck we can just look at SEC moves to start:

Pearl at auburn: someone feel free to correct me, but to the best of my knowledge hasn't lost any players from his current team. Landed a 4* recruit who's the #1 ranked JUCO, and kept the current class together.

Kim Anderson at Missouri: now keep in mind this is a coach from D2 who many on here laughed at the hire. He lost Kevin Punter and Namon Wright off his class, but kept their best player Jakeenan Gant. He hasn't lost any players off their current roster to the best of my knowledge.

Like you're saying, this isn't the norm for a coaching change, anyone who says it is, is damn blind.

 

[ranradVOL]

I've asked no less than 5 times, if attrition like this is the norm please provide some examples of other coaching changes resulting in losing 7 players....

Heck we can just look at SEC moves to start:

Pearl at auburn: someone feel free to correct me, but to the best of my knowledge hasn't lost any players from his current team. Landed a 4* recruit who's the #1 ranked JUCO, and kept the current class together.

Kim Anderson at Missouri: now keep in mind this is a coach from D2 who many on here laughed at the hire. He lost Kevin Punter and Namon Wright off his class, but kept their best player Jakeenan Gant. He hasn't lost any players off their current roster to the best of my knowledge.

Like you're saying, this isn't the norm for a coaching change, anyone who says it is, is damn blind.

I understand people want to be optimistic, but you can't gut a team in a major conference and expect everything to be okay.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I understand people want to be optimistic, but you can't gut a team in a major conference and expect everything to be okay.

Can he fill 6-7 spots with JUCOs and grad transfers and win 15-16 games, it's possible. But what's the plan going forward? Replace those same guys with guys of similar caliber from the JUCO ranks?

At some point you've gotta recruit some high school kids, and as I've said I'm not sure his style attracts too many.

 

[Vawlz]

I understand people want to be optimistic, but you can't gut a team in a major conference and expect everything to be okay.

For crying out loud, CDT has been the head coach for a few weeks, and already the chicken littles are whining.

Sure, the attrition is disappointing, but by no means is it unprecedented after a coaching change.