TOS posters saying defection rumors legit

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Spartacavolus said:
AJ got benched and DT got benched and lost minutes. Sounds like great coaching.
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Sometimes freshman playing on teams with a roster full of juniors and seniors sit the bench. This certainly must not be new to you. I'm sure you are much more familiar with basketball than Antonio Davis. It didn't seem like Antonio thought his kid was getting a bad deal, but what does he know, he only played pro ball for 16 years (fat fingered that one).
 
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#255
“I’m no miracle man. I guarantee nothing but hard work.”


“I know what it takes to win. If I can sell them on what it takes to win, then we are not going to lose too many games.”


“There’s a lot of blood, sweat, and guts between dreams and success.”


“There is no sin in not liking to play; it’s a mistake for a boy to be there if he doesn’t want to.”
 
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drewtigeralum said:
I think it's funny that the fans felt the coaching was holding them back, but the players did not feel that way. This is especially interesting considering a few of the players have parents with extensive basketball experience.
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You keep changing your argument or the point you're trying to make. I'm glad your wife has the DVM degree cause the way you keep up I wouldn't let you touch my dog. I'm out.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
You keep changing your argument or the point you're trying to make. I'm glad your wife has the DVM degree cause the way you keep up I wouldn't let you touch my dog. I'm out.
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Wait, whose argument was I responding to?

Bolwinggreenvol
"Most fans thought they were being held back or not coached up by the staff"

Also, if touching your dog required a trip to Bowling Green, I think we would both pass.
 
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vol66 said:
Sounds like ole ball coach Tyndall has more defectors than the Cuban National Team.
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In before, he told them to consider leaving...

Does anybody know what was said in the one on one evaluations...sometimes the truth hurts...
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Sometimes freshman playing on teams with a roster full of juniors and seniors sit the bench. This certainly must not be new to you. I'm sure you are much more familiar with basketball than Antonio Davis. It didn't seem like Antonio thought his kid was getting a bad deal, but what does he know, he only played pro ball for 16 years (fat fingered that one).
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here come the Cuonzo queen back with his bs. I didn't say anything about Antonio Davis.

I said his son digressed under Martin and wasn't used correctly when he did play, which probably led to his digression and benching. You can't debate any of that, so feel free to make up something else in your la la land head.
DT digressed after earning starter minutes in practice. There is no debating that either.
Players are supposed to get better as the year goes on. Period. Not worse. Especially freshmen, who should be adjusted to the speed and strength by then and the game should slow down for them a little. Then again, that would involve coaching.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Wait, whose argument was I responding to?

Bolwinggreenvol
"Most fans thought they were being held back or not coached up by the staff"

Also, if touching your dog required a trip to Bowling Green, I think we would both pass.
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My point had nothing to do with what the players thought of CCM's coaching. It was what fans thought. Didn't say the fans thinking was right, simply stated people's sentiments. You asked what the players thought of fans appreciation not what players thought of CCM's coaching. That's where I get your changing from.

FTR, I don't live in BG anymore, but anywhere in KY is better than anywhere in IN which is where I imagine y'all are from originally with y'all being Purdue alums/fans.
 
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siap,

someone said Hubbs asked for a release, but i didn't see a thread. Was that just speculation?
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
My point had nothing to do with what the players thought of CCM's coaching. It was what fans thought. Didn't say the fans thinking was right, simply stated people's sentiments. You asked what the players thought of fans appreciation not what players thought of CCM's coaching. That's where I get your changing from.

FTR, I don't live in BG anymore, but anywhere in KY is better than anywhere in IN which is where I imagine y'all are from originally with y'all being Purdue alums/fans.
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Funny, my wife is from Knoxville.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
here come the Cuonzo queen back with his bs. I didn't say anything about Antonio Davis.

I said his son digressed under Martin and wasn't used correctly when he did play, which probably led to his digression and benching. You can't debate any of that, so feel free to make up something else in your la la land head.
DT digressed after earning starter minutes in practice. There is no debating that either.
Players are supposed to get better as the year goes on. Period. Not worse. Especially freshmen, who should be adjusted to the speed and strength by then and the game should slow down for them a little. Then again, that would involve coaching.
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Yes, there has never been mention of the freshman wall in athletics...ever. Like I said, if A.J. wasn't getting coaching, you would think his dad would have said something about it. Seems like the Davis family was happy with coach Martin and his staff, and I think their opinion probably carries a little more weight than either of ours.

Thompson was a true freshman playing on a veteran team. His job wasn't to shine, it was to get the ball to MacRae and Stokes and screw up as few times as possible while doing it. Once his turnovers went up, Barton became the better option.
 
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wouldn't mind seeing a list of freshmen that hit the wall and avg'd more than 2 pts/gm.

Like I said prior, this is the generation of excuse makers. No way it was because they were handcuffed and overcoached when a system asks them to make a pass 3 feet away near midcourt and was benched. That's not a freshman wall.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Funny, my wife is from Knoxville.
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Oh so she's the only one in the relationship? Notice you didn't reveal where you're from.

I've been "fortunate" enough to live in FL for 18 yrs, Knoxville for 4 yrs, BG for 7 yrs and now Spring Hill, TN for roughly a year and I would take BG everyday of the week. Now we're off on a tangent.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
wouldn't mind seeing a list of freshmen that hit the wall and avg'd more than 2 pts/gm.

Like I said prior, this is the generation of excuse makers. No way it was because they were handcuffed and overcoached when a system asks them to make a pass 3 feet away near midcourt and was benched. That's not a freshman wall.
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I could provide you with a long list of highly regarded PG's that only scored 2 pts a game their freshmen year.

The funny thing is, Thompson was fairly consistent in minutes played from game to game this season, with the exception of 2 games (Ole Miss and Bama). He usually played somewhere between 13-20 minutes a game. He wasn't called on to score, because MacRae, Richardson, Maymon, and Stokes were also on the court, and they were options 1-4. He was a solid play maker though, but as a freshman often do, turned the ball over too much, thus limiting his minutes.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Yes, there has never been mention of the freshman wall in athletics...ever. Like I said, if A.J. wasn't getting coaching, you would think his dad would have said something about it. Seems like the Davis family was happy with coach Martin and his staff, and I think their opinion probably carries a little more weight than either of ours.

Thompson was a true freshman playing on a veteran team. His job wasn't to shine, it was to get the ball to MacRae and Stokes and screw up as few times as possible while doing it. Once his turnovers went up, Barton became the better option.
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I'm not suggesting Antonio was unhappy with AJ's role but do you expect him to express that publicly? Maybe he has more class than some parents but wasn't happy behind the scenes, as in at home. But we'll likely never be privy to that nor should we.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
I could provide you with a long list of highly regarded PG's that only scored 2 pts a game their freshmen year.

The funny thing is, Thompson was fairly consistent in minutes played from game to game this season, with the exception of 2 games (Ole Miss and Bama). He usually played somewhere between 13-20 minutes a game. He wasn't called on to score, because MacRae, Richardson, Maymon, and Stokes were also on the court, and they were options 1-4. He was a solid play maker though, but as a freshman often do, turned the ball over too much, thus limiting his minutes.
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and what you don't see that I see is that his turnover were lazy passes 40 feet away from the basket and not from being careless with the ball making a play or pass to his teammates in scoring position. He wasn't allowed to because Martin wanted him to give it to the wing and go stand in a corner to shoot his 19% 3 pt shot when they doubled Stokes late and he had to kick it out with the shot clock down.

DT can play and was underutilized for the skills he brings, along with the athletes we had, including Stokes. Him walking it up and getting a 10 second call as his coach is pulling his reigns sums it up. Martin took away all of DT's creativity and ability to see over the defense and made him stand in a corner on offense.
DT's the one that should be pissed at Martin for taking a skill set of ballhandling, height, vision, awareness, anticipation and ability to finish at the rim off one foot and not use any of it because of your scheme.
It's ridiculous.
 
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zansdad said:
Why would shoulder surgery keep him at UT? I can't quite connect those dots.
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If it wasn't for that surgery he wouldn't be sitting out 2 years if he were to transfer basically.

If he had played a full year last year, and just had to sit out 1 year I think this decision would be easier for him.
 
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Ace said:
College basketball has changed so much over the past 10 years. So many talented juco and grad transfers. These players are more physically mature than most freshmen. The right coach can turn programs around quickly. What is yet to be seen, Is CDT the right coach?
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1 small snag might be that it's not nearly as easy to get into UT as it is USM and MSU. A lot of those JUCOs he got didn't have the grades and so they flew under the radar, he doesn't have that luxury anymore.
 
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