Not Going to Have "Thugs"? Wha?

[Thump]

Jesse and Al are worthless, but you're kidding yourself. Racism would exist whether anybody knew who they were or not. As long as there are ignorant people, there will be people that irrationally draw conclusions based on race. It's just a fact of life.

True, but they do more to fan the flames than they do to snuff it out. They are the biggest promoters of racism in America. It use to be the Black Panthers and the KKK. Now you have Jesse and Al. They are worthless garbage and do more to hurt the race they claim to help. They have Reverend at the front of their name but they act like they came from Westboro Baptist...

 

[k-town_king]

Those two hold a lot more power than one thinks. Blacks still listen to them, in fact Mr. Whitlock said that during the Imus ordeal.
Other countries have their cronies like we have ours.

This is a hyperbole, but they raised that mentality in the 70's and it got passed down obviously.

That is wrong. There also are not too many Black reporters less qualified to speak on what Black people think than Whitlock. I am Black. I know people involved in community, church , and politics. No one listens to them. Period. They are past irrelevant.

 

[GAVol]

And how come there's BET? Where is White Entertainment Television, huh?!

They've already got that. It's called CMT.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Whitlock is too objective and sees things from more than one angle, which is probably why some don't like him. I can see how that would rub somebody the wrong way, and now I have the answer as to why one particular poster is so mad that Martin left and refused to be objective about what happened on the court. It all just came together. Can't believe the dude calling others a racist obviously is up Martin's butt because he's the same race. That's weak, imo.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Those two hold a lot more power than one thinks. Blacks still listen to them, in fact Mr. Whitlock said that during the Imus ordeal.
Other countries have their cronies like we have ours.

This is a hyperbole, but they raised that mentality in the 70's and it got passed down obviously.

Black people in this country spent centuries in slavery and another hundred years being brutally oppressed, yet racism only exists in America because black politicians made it up less than 10 years after Selma for their own profit. Got it.

 

[Spartacavolus]

They've already got that. It's called CMT.

that was well done. Though I used to watch BET all the time growing up.

 

[Burger]

That is wrong. There also are not too many Black reporters less qualified to speak on what Black people think than Whitlock. I am Black. I know people involved in community, church , and politics. No one listens to them. Period. They are past irrelevant.

I'm very happy none of you listen to them. They still do in more liberal states like Cali. The white man puts us down mentality comes from Jesse 30 years ago. He single handedly got Imus fired, and Martin's trial on TV bc of race.

 

[Burger]

Black people in this country spent centuries in slavery and another hundred years being brutally oppressed, yet racism only exists in America because black politicians made it up less than 10 years after Selma for their own profit. Got it.

It was long ago. Move on and start your own success despite stereotypes

Blacks first invaded my natives in 400 ad when Charles Martell ran them off. So I get to be butthurt over it?

The Jackson mentality is very strong in this country.

 

[GrowVol]

Thugs are white/black/latino,etc......CDT wasn't being racist, he was being anti-thugist. He was saying we don't want any white/black/latino,etc idiot thugs on our team. Done with White/Black/Latino's screaming racism over the littlest statement someone makes.....to justify them being thugs...NOW(it is not the 60's).

 

[Jax_Vol]

I want thugs! I don't care if they are purple.

 

[Vercingetorix]

It was long ago. Move on and start your own success despite stereotypes

Blacks first invaded my natives in 400 ad when Charles Martell ran them off. So I get to be butthurt over it?

The Jackson mentality is very strong in this country.

It's not "long ago" as long as people who grew up with institutionalized, normalize racism are still alive. People in their 60s grew up when black people couldn't eat in the same restaurants, use the same bathrooms or drinking fountains, etc. My middle aged cousins, who are from a moderately sized town in Tennessee, grew up cheerfully calling black people "n iggers" because "that's what they are." By the 80s they'd mellowed to the point where they would say "not all of them are, just some of them." These are lifelong attitudes that people learned in their formative years; there are millions of Americans, both white and black, who grew learning that that "blacks are inferior"/"whites are oppressing us." Not only are they still around, they're at their maximum wealth and power in society. America has clearly progressed to the point where racism isn't destiny like it used to be, but it's silly to pretend that all those learned attitudes people learned just magically went away.

Charles Martell has been dead for a thousand years. My cousin is alive and making hiring decisions, and unfortunately he's still racist as hell.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

When was the last time you were called that? When was the last time you even thought about your race? When was the last time somebody crossed the road when you walked by? etc.

White people in America don't have to think about it. Have you ever travelled to a country where you weren't the dominate color?

I'm sorry but you do know that white males are now the minority in the USA educate yoursf before throwing out pittty racial sob stories drop it already

 

[1972 Grad]

Just for fun, let's browse some of the usernames of folks posting in this thread:

1972 Grad
VolArmy74
jspvol76
FLVOL 79
GAVOL 1973

No pattern there! Nope, none at all!

And why did you post here? If someone older than 50 posts on this thread, what is your implication?

 

[1972 Grad]

It's not "long ago" as long as people who grew up with institutionalized, normalize racism are still alive. People in their 60s grew up when black people couldn't eat in the same restaurants, use the same bathrooms or drinking fountains, etc. My middle aged cousins, who are from a moderately sized town in Tennessee, grew up cheerfully calling black people "n iggers" because "that's what they are." By the 80s they'd mellowed to the point where they would say "not all of them are, just some of them." These are lifelong attitudes that people learned in their formative years; there are millions of Americans, both white and black, who grew learning that that "blacks are inferior"/"whites are oppressing us." Not only are they still around, they're at their maximum wealth and power in society. America has clearly progressed to the point where racism isn't destiny like it used to be, but it's silly to pretend that all those learned attitudes people learned just magically went away.

Charles Martell has been dead for a thousand years. My cousin is alive and making hiring decisions, and unfortunately he's still racist as hell.

Just because your family oppressed the black man, don't blame all of us.

 

[Vercingetorix]

Just because your family oppressed the black man, don't blame all of us.

Heh. Liked.

 

[1972 Grad]

Racists do love to use per capita to cloud who actually commits most crime in the US. I don't know him. He may not be, but people who allude to Black people being more likely to commit crimes based on per capita convictions are most of the time. For one convictions don't show who committed the crimes accurately. Per capita also doesn't tell raw numbers about who actually is doing what. That is why they say per capita this and that. They never point out that per capita rich Black people commit crimes at the same rate as rich White people. Or the fact poor Whites commit crimes the same rates as poor Black. They ignore things like income and use it as some justification of treating Black people like criminals or looking down on them.

Come to think of it, I have noticed a lot of poor white trash flash mobs recently, and poor white folks shooting 40 other whites on a normal Chicago weekend.

 

[k-town_king]

Come to think of it, I have noticed a lot of poor white trash flash mobs recently, and poor white folks shooting 40 other whites on a normal Chicago weekend.

I know you are being sarcastic and think it doesn't happen to White people. They did it last week. Google Deltopia.

 

[VolArmy74]

Just for fun, let's browse some of the usernames of folks posting in this thread:

1972 Grad
VolArmy74
jspvol76
FLVOL 79
GAVOL 1973

No pattern there! Nope, none at all!

We have 7's in our username?

Army 1970-1974, enrolled at UT in the fall of 1974. Served with the best men in the world, black, white, whatever, they kept me alive and I did my best to keep them alive in some very tough situations. I consider themselves my brothers for life.

That said, a thug is a thug is a thug. Race, creed, color have nothing to do with it.

Criminals, thugs, gangsters, hooligans, ruffians, however you wish to say it. They're bad people. Our coach shouldn't have to not use a perfectly legitimate word with a clear and distinct meaning because some idiots have tried to co-opt it to suit their purposes.

 

[lyansaine]

And why did you post here? If someone older than 50 posts on this thread, what is your implication?

Thought my point was obvious. Let me clarify: you're an old white dude who has a mentality that hasn't changed since 40+ years ago. Hence the backwards views on race and insane belief that the biggest problem in America today is reverse racism.

 

[lyansaine]

I'm very happy none of you listen to them. They still do in more liberal states like Cali. The white man puts us down mentality comes from Jesse 30 years ago. He single handedly got Imus fired, and Martin's trial on TV bc of race.

This is hilarious. Yeah, race relations in America were fantastic until 30 years ago when Jesse Jackson came along.

 

[lyansaine]

I'm sorry but you do know that white males are now the minority in the USA educate yoursf before throwing out pittty racial sob stories drop it already

Hahahahahahahaha

 

[volgrad500]

Racists do love to use per capita to cloud who actually commits most crime in the US. I don't know him. He may not be, but people who allude to Black people being more likely to commit crimes based on per capita convictions are most of the time. For one convictions don't show who committed the crimes accurately. Per capita also doesn't tell raw numbers about who actually is doing what. That is why they say per capita this and that. They never point out that per capita rich Black people commit crimes at the same rate as rich White people. Or the fact poor Whites commit crimes the same rates as poor Black. They ignore things like income and use it as some justification of treating Black people like criminals or looking down on them.

The dumbest post I've seen on here in at least a year, if not more.

 

[VolArmy74]

Thought my point was obvious. Let me clarify: you're an old white dude who has a mentality that hasn't changed since 40+ years ago. Hence the backwards views on race and insane belief that the biggest problem in America today is reverse racism.

I do not believe reverse racism is much of a problem at all in America. Racism is also still alive and well.

That said, as a person who grew up in the South in the 1950s and 1960s, I've saw real racism first hand.

Coach Tyndall saying he doesn't want thugs on his team is not even remotely in the same galaxy.

 

[orange_glory]

Most AA's nowadays were never bonded or enslaved. I think that mentality is self-serving more than correct.

Exactly, the Jews have been enslaved and oppressed more times through history than probably any other race. I don't see most of them using it as a crutch.

 

[lyansaine]

I do not believe reverse racism is much of a problem at all in America. Racism is also still alive and well.

That said, as a person who grew up in the South in the 1950s and 1960s, I've saw real racism first hand.

Coach Tyndall saying he doesn't want thugs on his team is not even remotely in the same galaxy.

Very good point - this is definitely not in the same galaxy as lynchings, beatings, and Jim Crow. Like I said earlier, I certainly don't think Tyndall is a racist or knew that he was saying anything controversial. But I also think everyone - especially public figures like CDT - need to be sensitive to the fact that "thug" has become shorthand for the n-word. One might not like that we have to be politically correct in 2014, but we've got to live in the world as it is rather than the way we'd like it to be.