Not Going to Have "Thugs"? Wha?

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What if the all of the remaining players on the team were white and DT said he didn't want any "thugs" on the team. How would that have been received?

The entire team was black last season. Were they thugs? I don't think so. Was it racist there were no white players? I don't know. Were those the 12-13 best players on campus? Were there white players that were turned away from the program?

I don't know those answers. But what I do know is that it was never brought up by the media. Something tells me if the entire team and coaches were white it would have been an issue.

Point is, you shouldn't be able to have it both ways but when it comes to race...you can. It is what it is.
 
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Vol8188 said:
So you do not believe black people are capable of racism?
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Like I said I don't want to get political on the bball forum. But yes of course. Any race or nationality can be. People are people. The problem is when a Black person says something is racist , the new thing is for the actual racist to cry reverse racism and say its the Black person being racist by pointing out the racism. Another difference is institutionalized racism vs a person being racist. Hiring practices, law enforcement and judicial differences are different from one Black person who doesn't like White people.
 
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k-town_king said:
Like I said I don't want to get political on the bball forum. But yes of course. Any race or nationality can be. People are people. The problem is when a Black person says something is racist , the new thing is for the actual racist to cry reverse racism and say its the Black person being racist by pointing out the racism. Another difference is institutionalized racism vs a person being racist. Hiring practices, law enforcement and judicial differences are different from one Black person who doesn't like White people.
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How are you able to make social injustice so boring? :glare:
 
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TXA&M07 said:
This thread is a direct reflection on how far we as a society have come regarding political correctness and overanalyzation of usage/context in regards to a select handful of man made terms. Over the course of our history, words have evolved along with their meanings. As a society, we've done that to ourselves to either fill our agendas, mask an underlying opinion, or ignore/discredit a terms purpose.

Perfect topic for debate for those that have very little to do of any importance other than read their own posts. Yall have fun.
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Good post.

With ya 07.

Have fun all.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
You do realize that the idiot Sherman also labeled the NFL racist because they are trying to take the "n" word out of the game.
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Who are a bunch of white folks to tell black folk they can't use the "n" word. There is an element of race to it and you need to read his reasoning before posting this. Idiot don't have master degrees from Stanford my friend.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Who are a bunch of white folks to tell black folk they can't use the "n" word. There is an element of race to it and you need to read his reasoning before posting this. Idiot don't have master degrees from Stanford my friend.
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Why would the black folk want to? It's hypocritical to use a word and get butthurt when others use it.
 
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Thug is a term used to describe a lifestyle. Race has nothing to do with it. Every race has thugs. The problem is most don't know how to properly identify a thug.
 
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utvolpj said:
the coach's job is to get players, primarily black, to come play for him at TN. It doesn't matter what you personally think of the word or how outraged you are over "PC culture" or any other ridiculousness. All that matters is whether it could hurt him in his pursuit of black student-athletes. IMO it could and I would have preferred him to choose his words a bit more carefully
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Sure he could select his words more carefully, but we could also take a little bit of time to interpret his words a little more carefully as well. Also, I would be absolutely shocked if this statement has a negative impact on recruiting. I think the non thug "primarily black" kids that we will recruit will feel loved and appreciated by this staff, and any ill thoughts about the small sound bite will be grossly outweighed by the first hand one on one experience with the man.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Who are a bunch of white folks to tell black folk they can't use the "n" word. There is an element of race to it and you need to read his reasoning before posting this. Idiot don't have master degrees from Stanford my friend.
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Some of the smartest people lack common sense. Common sense would tell me if I didn't like being called a certain word, I would stop using the word myself.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Who are a bunch of white folks to tell black folk they can't use the "n" word. There is an element of race to it and you need to read his reasoning before posting this. Idiot don't have master degrees from Stanford my friend.
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I don't care which degree that he has from which school. That guy acted like an idiot.....period.
 
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k-town_king said:
Like I said I don't want to get political on the bball forum. But yes of course. Any race or nationality can be. People are people. The problem is when a Black person says something is racist , the new thing is for the actual racist to cry reverse racism and say its the Black person being racist by pointing out the racism. Another difference is institutionalized racism vs a person being racist. Hiring practices, law enforcement and judicial differences are different from one Black person who doesn't like White people.
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What you refer to as institutionalized racism is otherwise known as human nature. Go to a Hispanic owned business, guess what race most of there employees are? Go to a black owned business, guess what race most of there employees are?

Why is that? If I'm a black man or a white man (or woman, don't want any one playing the sex card on me), the majority of the people I know and interact with are probably of my race. So the majority of people I hire, will probably also be of my race.

And what law enforcement practices are "racist"? With the exception of drug laws, which I oppose, I see no racism in our criminal justice system. Blacks out number whites in prison because more blacks live in poverty. Not because every law enforcement practice in America is directly designed to target blacks.

Also, why should our argument not take place here? It's not like we are derailing the thread, this is what the thread was meant for.
 
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Reynvol5 said:
I knew what he meant by using the term "thug". Trouble makers, guys seeking to break laws, use/sell drugs etc. For future reference though, I would just stay away from that term to avoid criticism
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The problem with that is you let people with a certain agenda define free speech.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Who are a bunch of white folks to tell black folk they can't use the "n" word. There is an element of race to it and you need to read his reasoning before posting this. Idiot don't have master degrees from Stanford my friend.
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Who are a bunch of black folks to tell white folk that they can't use the "t" word, after using it since the beginning of time to define lawless people?
 
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Anybody with any common sense knows what he meant when he said he wasn't going to have a bunch of thugs on his basketball team. He clearly didn't mean all black guys. If he did he might as well go ahead and fold up the basketball program because it will no longer exist. So I don't think that's what he meant, do you?
 
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volholio said:
It's a legitimate debate. It was HUGE issue not even three months ago. I have a link to Richard Sherman talking about it.

I think it's a fair discussion. If you'd not like to join it, that's fine, but I think it's interesting. I'm interested in other opinions.
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Your full of crap
 
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