Michael White (La Tech)

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bleedingTNorange said:
If White is confident in his abilities the buyout shouldn't be an issue, obviously he doesn't feel he can get it done here.
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I think you are on the right track. He knows how the system works.

The more successful you are the better the deal is ALWAYS.

But the more success you have, the other party (TN) will have a larger buy-out every time there is an extension.

Hart and TN probably have a "solid knowing" that he would bolt within 2 years if he became very successful. Because if they didn't, the buy-out for him leaving within 2 years would be a smaller amount.

Right now, White still has credibility to his name. If he goes to TN and flops, that credibility goes down hill.

I compare this to when Auburn hired Tony Barbee from UTEP. I think he jumped way too soon. They were about the same age too.

Auburn hires UTEP's Tony Barbee as new basketball coach - USATODAY.com

Information on his contract

Auburn coach Tony Barbee formally signs contract thru 2017 | AL.com
 
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volbeast33 said:
i mean who was saying it
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Like I've said, trending that way, not it was definitely a dead deal. VQ had 2-3 updates today saying buyouts were an issue and had been since yesterday. The guy on here who had the info first yesterday said it wasn't looking likely earlier today.
 
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emainvol said:
Yeah, if this was 2007
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I hope he's wrong as I really want White to get the job, just sharing the info.

And as I've mentioned, from reading in between the lines it appeared to be heading this way.

Now maybe Hart sleeps on it and decides to go with what White is asking, who knows.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Like I've said, trending that way, not it was definitely a dead deal. VQ had 2-3 updates today saying buyouts were an issue and had been since yesterday. The guy on here who had the info first yesterday said it wasn't looking likely earlier today.
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So from what you know about this guy....you think it definatley over? Is anyone else reporting it? I hate that I get so invested in this. As Vols fans we all do....but this is a bummer if true.
 
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volbeast33 said:
i mean who was saying it
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Like I said...

I can't say for sure that White has completely slammed the door. As of noon today, it apparently was looking doubtful, but I don't think Hart has given up throughout the afternoon/evening.

But I haven't felt all day at any point that it was a done deal or close to being a done deal for White to be at Tennessee.

But again, I can't say for sure that talks have ended.
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allvol9 said:
Sp from what you know about this guy....you think it definatley think its over? Is anyone else reporting it? I hate that I get so invested in this. As Vols fans we all do....but this is a bummer if true.
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Just like with recruiting these things are fluid. If this is really Hart's guy then maybe Hart sleeps on things and decides to meet White in the middle and the deal gets done. Hart seems like a pretty stubborn guy though and not the type to budge.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I hope he's wrong as I really want White to get the job, just sharing the info.

And as I've mentioned, from reading in between the lines it appeared to be heading this way.

Now maybe Hart sleeps on it and decides to go with what White is asking, who knows.
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Doesn't seem to be asking for anything outlandish
 
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#518
LWSVol is the angel of death. I swear, that guy has never dropped a single morsel of good news as long as I've been following the Vols.
 
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Aesius said:
LWSVol is the angel of death. I swear, that guy has never dropped a single morsel of good news as long as I've been following the Vols.
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As credible as he is, he really hasn't. UT just hasn't had a lot of good news in many of its sports the last many years.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I think you are on the right track. He knows how the system works.

The more successful you are the better the deal is ALWAYS.

But the more success you have, the other party (TN) will have a larger buy-out every time there is an extension.

Hart and TN probably have a "solid knowing" that he would bolt within 2 years if he became very successful. Because if they didn't, the buy-out for him leaving within 2 years would be a smaller amount.

Right now, White still has credibility to his name. If he goes to TN and flops, that credibility goes down hill.

I compare this to when Auburn hired Tony Barbee from UTEP. I think he jumped way too soon. They were about the same age too.

Auburn hires UTEP's Tony Barbee as new basketball coach - USATODAY.com

Information on his contract

Auburn coach Tony Barbee formally signs contract thru 2017 | AL.com
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Contracts are a gamble... this one cost Aubbie dearly... I think Hart will struggle trying to get a clean contract (UT leaning) for the next hire.

Barbee coached Auburn for four seasons, leading the Tigers to a 49-75 record and 18-50 mark in SEC play -- a .265 winning percentage that is the second-worst four-year period in Auburn's history.

Auburn owes Barbee a $2.4375 million buyout to be paid in monthly installments through 2017.
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rnhturner said:
who is LWS?
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He has some connections to the athletic department. He used to know some of Fulmer's staff, and I am not sure who he knows now. But he has a good pulse on the program and sometimes uses some generalities to hedge himself. I would say if it is specific info, then he is probably correct.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Like I said...
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That might e the stupidest most non informative pos posting I've ever read. LWS apparently is like the rest of us and don't know crap. All that guy said is that talks have slowed but they might not be over yet and u, BTO gonna say it looks like it's over. Unreal. Now I know why so many ppl rip on u on a daily basis. Smh
 
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Gramps said:
LWSVol . He has been wrong on some calls but imo he is the most credible "insider" on the board.
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His most notable wrong call seemed to be on Gruden. He thought/had info that we had a shot at Gruden. DeerPark was flat out saying no the whole time.
 
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Gruuden said:
That might e the stupidest most non informative pos posting I've ever read. LWS apparently is like the rest of us and don't know crap. All that guy said is that talks have slowed but they might not be over yet and u, BTO gonna say it looks like it's over. Unreal. Now I know why so many ppl rip on u on a daily basis. Smh
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you are misinformed on LWS. If he doesn't know then he says so and he shies away from absolutes which is smart when piecing together info. To say he's "like the rest of us" when it comes to UT info is simply wrong
 
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