Couldn't agree more with Coach Pearl

#51
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Do you know what a show cause order means?
The school would have to show cause why he should be permitted to coach. They never even asked for a hearing to try and present mitigating circumstances. Cheek and Hamilton dropped him like a hot potato and he still says he's a VFL. I guess I live by some antiquated value system where I can appreciate his magnanimity.
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You are right to appreciate that. I do as well. However, he created the situation. Not a victim.
 
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Bruce Pearl could crash his car into a bingo party at a retirement home and some would give him credit for swerving to avoid the front desk.
 
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CroKev said:
The VFL stuff goes out the window once I see him shirtless with a big blue AU painted on his chest...
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Yes he should of hung up on auburn and said I will never coach again unless Tennessee comes calling. This is exactly why the term Vol For Life needs to die. It is like a security blanket to say really stupid things about people who have done more for the university then anyone on this board.
 
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GAVol said:
Bruce Pearl could crash his car into a bingo party at a retirement home and some would give him credit for swerving to avoid the front desk.
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man, you bring up his name more than most of his staunchest supporters ever do GA. Don't really see that side of you but we get it.

it was a funny example btw, but if I want to go see a bunch of GA posts, I need only to look for the Pearl threads
 
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GAVol said:
Bruce Pearl could crash his car into a bingo party at a retirement home and some would give him credit for swerving to avoid the front desk.
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Haha, I can hear it now: "but his car had Tennessee tags, he loves us still"
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
I absolutely agree.

UT should have worked like heck to keep Bruce Pearl. Should have kicked the NCAA with a hobnail boot. Hambone and Cheek! :no:
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U.T. hired Pearl when no other team would touch him because he was considered, in coaching circles, to be a self serving liar. U.T. rolled the dice and it looked like they won big, until, once again, he got caught being a self serving liar. U.T. gave him a chance to prove everyone else wrong, and he failed miserably.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
man, you bring up his name more than most of his staunchest supporters ever do GA. Don't really see that side of you but we get it.

it was a funny example btw, but if I want to go see a bunch of GA posts, I need only to look for the Pearl threads
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Well the thread is about him, so . . .

And I've got 75,000 posts. I'm everywhere.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Not that simple. If NCAA didnt botch it, Miami would have been drilled.
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I think this is the real question that sticks in my craw. We shivered in fear that we were going to be the next SMU and pretty much cut our own throat at the feet of the NCAA. Yet ever since that happened the NCAA has shown it's self to be a toothless lion when you look at the lack of action over the donation to Cam Newtons dad, the free suits in Tuscaloosa, the UM goings on, etc. PSU is probably the sole example of them getting tough with anyone.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Do you know what a show cause order means?
The school would have to show cause why he should be permitted to coach. They never even asked for a hearing to try and present mitigating circumstances. Cheek and Hamilton dropped him like a hot potato and he still says he's a VFL. I guess I live by some antiquated value system where I can appreciate his magnanimity.
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Has Auburn?
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Pearl is an excellent salesman, but it appears that most of his long term relationships end with him getting caught up in his own lies. If he could just stop lying he would be an excellent basketball coach. Auburn better hope he learned his lesson.
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Basketball is the dirtiest sport in the NCAA, dirtier than football ever dreamed of being. Pay for play starts as early as 5th grade. There's no such thing as a college basketball coach who never lies or cheats. The best you can hope for is that the lies are 'white lies' and the cheating doesn't cross large moral boundaries. That's the nature of the biz.

Bruce Pearl simply got caught where others haven't and was overpunished given his 'crime' compared to several other coaches who've been caught - look at Haith.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
It just must be a little weird. I'm not sure U.T. fans would be happy if they hired a former S.E.C. coach who claimed to be, I don't know, A Bammer for life, or maybe a Wildcat for life.
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Heck, look at how many fans think Hart is a Bamer plant set to ruin us.
 
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UTProf said:
Basketball is the dirtiest sport in the NCAA, dirtier than football ever dreamed of being. Pay for play starts as early as 5th grade. There's no such thing as a college basketball coach who never lies or cheats. The best you can hope for is that the lies are 'white lies' and the cheating doesn't cross large moral boundaries. That's the nature of the biz.

Bruce Pearl simply got caught where others haven't and was overpunished given his 'crime' compared to several other coaches who've been caught - look at Haith.
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Pearl didn't get a sniff at a major college job until U.T. because he was considered to have crossed some major moral boundaries when he was an assistant coach at Iowa. In the process, he embarrassed the NCAA, and they got their retribution in the end. They set him up to lie, and he fell directly into the trap.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I think this is the real question that sticks in my craw. We shivered in fear that we were going to be the next SMU and pretty much cut our own throat at the feet of the NCAA. Yet ever since that happened the NCAA has shown it's self to be a toothless lion when you look at the lack of action over the donation to Cam Newtons dad, the free suits in Tuscaloosa, the UM goings on, etc. PSU is probably the sole example of them getting tough with anyone.
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If I could change two moments in the past 5 years, I'd go back and make that text from Mike Hamilton to Derek Dooley not go through and I'd catch Bruce right before meeting with the NCAA and tell him to just admit that it was his house in the picture.
 
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rich4pres said:
BTW, Bruce has practically been the only one to publicly defend our fanbase this week. That says something to me.
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Not practically...literally.

But I think this is a damned good point.

Martin could step up and put an end to this racism BS if he wanted with a 10 minute interview.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Not practically...literally.

But I think this is a damned good point.

Martin could step up and put an end to this racism BS if he wanted with a 10 minute interview.
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This is very true. Although, I don't know that a generalization like this even deserves to be legitimized.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
There are schools that would have stood by their coach. He lied and he took the full brunt of the consequences.
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Had it been just been about him breaking a rule and then him denying that it happened I believe he would still be here.

He's not because there was more to it than that.
 
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It's sad not to still have Pearl. Sad that he made such a stupid mistake, turning a fairly minor incident into a major one and then losing his job. Auburn? Hey, I'm happy he's coaching again.

As for Martin, he strikes me as a guy who does not have the personality for a big-time job. I firmly believe that. You've got to be tough-minded and energetic and confident to run even a fairly big program, in any sport, and he just doesn't seem the type. Too mellow, and seemingly too sensitive. You are either confident you can do the job or you are not--and if you are not, you run. Martin ran. Let's drop all this silliness that he wasn't treated well. Of course fans groused--especially on the internet. That's what fans do everywhere; it's our society now, for better or worse. You roll with it. Martin seems like a good man--but he couldn't roll with it, so he skeedaddled to a weak sister program where he can do his mellow thang. But what's he going to do when he feels some heat from Cal fans? The bar is lower there, but he will still feel the heat.
 
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GAVol said:
If I could change two moments in the past 5 years, I'd go back and make that text from Mike Hamilton to Derek Dooley not go through and I'd catch Bruce right before meeting with the NCAA and tell him to just admit that it was his house in the picture.
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Common theme.
 
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GAVol said:
This is very true. Although, I don't know that a generalization like this even deserves to be legitimized.
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It doesn't because it's ridiculous. If SEC administrations were so racist, why would they hire any black coaches in the first place?

Forde has taken leave of his senses.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I think this is the real question that sticks in my craw. We shivered in fear that we were going to be the next SMU and pretty much cut our own throat at the feet of the NCAA. Yet ever since that happened the NCAA has shown it's self to be a toothless lion when you look at the lack of action over the donation to Cam Newtons dad, the free suits in Tuscaloosa, the UM goings on, etc. PSU is probably the sole example of them getting tough with anyone.
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Difference in this case is NCAA had all evidence it needed: the words of Bruce Pearl. They didnt have an Aub official on tapr admitting he paid Cam.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Not practically...literally.

But I think this is a damned good point.

Martin could step up and put an end to this racism BS if he wanted with a 10 minute interview.
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I've read several Martin interviews about why he left U.T. and none of them mentioned racism. Why should he hold another press conference when he has already answered the question about why he left. His previous interview should provide enough ammunition to refute the racism claim.
 
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GAVol said:
If I could change two moments in the past 5 years, I'd go back and make that text from Mike Hamilton to Derek Dooley not go through and I'd catch Bruce right before meeting with the NCAA and tell him to just admit that it was his house in the picture.
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This has the makings of another "back to the future" movie. How
epic would a UT edition Back to the Future movie be?
 
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