Jimmy Cheeks vs candidates

#51
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bamacheats said:
I'm a UT graduate. I find it insulting that Cheek tells me that my education isn't worth much because UT hasn't had high enough academic standards.
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As an Alum as well I'm super happy with the fact that he's making my diploma more respected since I went there. Good ROI IMO. :good!: Especially since I would not get a look at by UT today with my grades coming out of HS.

He may have issues, but this isn't one to complain about. People who look at ur degree look at its value now not back then unless u tell them otherwise.

I actually got my first job after graduation in a business field I didn't even study, because of UTs reputation in that field. My boss straight up told me that he was banking on me picking up some of the basics along the way in the business field I did study.

Now IMHO in basketball recruiting under strict academic guidelines shouldn't be an issue if Hart gets an actual good coach that doesn't need to rely on "jimmy and joes." only Now in football due to the high # of players it makes it more difficult for sure. So again we just have to hope CBJ isn't a Fulmer type that needs a majority of "jimmy and joes" to suceed, but can truly get the best out of regular solid players with Xs and Os.
 
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Weezer said:
Cheek has good intentions but poor implementation. He wants to raise UT's academics, but part of that is spending money to hire better professors and upgrade the campus. What is the chief money maker of the University of Tennessee? It's not donors, it's UT athletics. Everytime he undercuts the UTAD he's hurting himself. The budget hires result in mediocre returns which lessens the revenue the UTAD draws in which gives him less of s pending pool in the future. Spend money now to make money in the future and that money will help to finance his plans, otherwise, the well is going to dry up on UT's cash cow. He doesn't have to like athletics, but he needs to see that it's his primary mode of funding all the things he hopes to accomplish.
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Chief moneymaker at UT is state and federal funding. Athletics revenue that actually gets used for academics doesn't even come close.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
There is so much wrong with this post I wouldn't know where to begin. So I'll just save time and call bs.
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Well if you think it's wrong big boy, just go right ahead and try to begin because you can't. And if you do try, you better provide the links and quotes as proof, cause if you don't, all you're doing is spouting emotional claptrap. The numbers are straight out of the 2013-2014 revised budget for UT.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
Not wrong, Cheeks allowed it to continue until it was brought to light and under intense scrutiny and then relented.
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Yeah, you are wrong. Relative to the total budget, the what .. measely $6,000,000.00
(that's six million dollars) or so the athletic department had been pumping into the general fund is just about .003 hundredths.
That's three tenths of one percent. 0.3%!

A traditional gift by the athletic department back to the university that in my day we were PROUD OF! We'd point to it and say, "Look how successful our Athletic Department is! Football and basketball support ALL other sports, Title IX included, and even give back.

So here comes Cheek, but it's at the end of Hamilton's tenure and he's not asked to stop the transfer until his third year,


So "brought to light" and "under intense scrutiny" are just meaningless emotional phrases. Brought to light? ... nah... we knew about it all along. Under intense scrutiny? ... nah ... Hart brought it up, Cheek made him make sure (as any CEO would) and the news led a bunch of fans around by their big orange nose rings sensationalizing the story.


Hart's here now. He asked. Of course there would be some of the "Are you sure you really need it?" back and forth but Cheek did indeed let Hart keep the money until the AD is back on it's feet and then, once again, we'll be able to point to our sports program at UT and say with pride, "See, we do so well that our athletic program can give back"!

Well, on second thought, that'll depend on how much them scholar athletes eat.
 
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GlockVol said:
UT is first and foremost a UNIVERSITY and Cheek is the UNIVERSITY president. It is his job to improve the UNIVERSITY and improve it's reputation and ACADEMIC standing and try to get sum learnin in sum dem bumpkins. So if we have slightly higher standards so as not to be a laughing stock, so be it. What's the denial of admission to one poor student who plays football when you could instead admit one who will have a higher chance to graduate and be a productive citizen (and we sure need more working citizens)
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Jimmy Cheek is President of the University of Tennessee? Gosh, I feel so dumb.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
Not wrong, Cheeks allowed it to continue until it was brought to light and under intense scrutiny and then relented.
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Your words : "Cheeks (sic) looted the Athletic Dept of funds."

The UTAD turned over monies to campus academics for over 40 years, goofball. Cheek suspended that practice after being here only 3 years. Learn the facts, and learn some grammar while you're at it.
 
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Jimmy Cheek has actually been tremendously supportive of our athletics program, far more so than his predecessors. From an organizational and financial standpoint, we are better positioned to succeed then we've been in a long time. The credit for that should clearly be attributed to the partnership Jimmy Cheek and Dave Hart have forged. Hart was a fantastic hire.

Just consider the fact that not only is Hart the Director of Athletics but is also the Vice Chancellor. That suggests a unified vision for both academics and athletics that I find very appealing.
 
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volnpowell said:
So they don't want/need the money from athletics?
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No they don't need it. What the Athletic Department was doing was 'giving back' or maybe better 'paying forward' because, even though for over 40 years all UTK athletics were only a self sufficient 'student auxillary' enterprise within the university system, they made a lot of money. Plenty. Too much. What to do?

Give say, $6,000,000 a year to the academic side. Sounds like a lot don't it.

Nope. Six mil is peanuts compared to an almost two billion total university budget. It's (on my cell so can't go back to look up) but around 0.03%. Chancellor Cheek in UTK and President DePietro for all of UT can get along without that. Do they need it? No.

Do they want it? Sure, six million dollars represents a lot of academic scholarships and Tennessee pride.
 
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