Gun control debate (merged)

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CagleMtnVol said:
This is scary, outrageous and down right sickening! :banghead2:

Every single person should be scared!


MILLER: Exclusive — Shock verdict — Mark Witaschek guilty of possessing muzzleloader bullets in D.C.
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Reading that was like reading an account of how someone watched a marmoset try to operate an Apache gunship. The sheer amount of utter, crushing, bewildering ignorance of the subject matter displayed by the court in this case is so overwhelming it's hard not to believe it's something from The Onion just to screw with people's heads.
 
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If states where the populous voted against recognizing gay marriage (which isn't a constitutionally guaranteed right) are required to recognize gay marriages because the couple's marriage was licensed in a state that does recognize it, shouldn't every state, county, and municipality that has put restrictions on owning firearms (which is a constitutionally guaranteed right) and carrying guns be forced to recognize a carry permit issued by a state where there are no such restrictions? Along the same lines, shouldn't a legally licensed prostitute from Nevada continue to work her trade legally in Texas? A medical cannabis user from Colorado must be recognized as legal in Minnesota? New York City has to recognize my legal ability to eat trans-fats since I am able to eat them in Tennessee? A motorcycle rider with a Florida driver's license is immune from helmet laws in California? A 13 year old girl who is legally wed in New Hampshire has to be recognized as legally married in Vermont?
 
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Emily Miller the reporter who wrote the article has really become a leader in reporting dumb gun stories.

I recommend everyone read her series of articles entitled Emily gets her gun chronicling her journey to become a legal gun owner while living in D.C.!

Here is the first article!

MILLER: Emily gets her gun

MILLER: Emily gets her gun

I want a gun. I don’t feel safe living in Washington, D.C. and want to protect myself. I’m starting today by going down to City Hall to find the gun permit office to tell them, “I want a gun.” This series will follow me as I navigate the city bureaucracy and outdated rules in order to legally buy a firearm.

My desire for a gun started when I had to face down over a dozen criminals on an empty cul de sac in Washington, D.C., armed only with a Blackberry.

It was New Year’s Day 2010, and I’d been staying in the house to dog sit for friends who were on vacation. I’d returned from walking the dog when I saw a man coming from the house.

“What are you doing?” I asked, sensing something was off with the situation. The Golden Retriever just stood next to me with a slack leash.

“We’re here to clean the pool,” the man said. He looked nervous and his eyes were blood-shot.

I was pretty sure my friends hadn’t called in a swimming pool emergency during the middle of winter. “No, we didn’t call for you,” I said.

“Oh, then it must be the house next door,” he said, smiling nervously. He turned and walked away quickly.

I’d left the front door unlocked since I was walking the dog for less than ten minutes. (I know, lesson learned.) After the man left, I was still suspicious so I went inside, grabbed my Blackberry and clicked on the icon for the camera. I walked down the street, and as I turned the corner, I saw about 15 scruffy young men standing around two pickup trucks. We were at the end of a woody, dead-end road.

I nervously held up my Blackberry to take a quick photo of them and the license plates. Suddenly, the blood-shot-eyed guy darted out, blocking the shot. “What are you doing?” he asked. I looked around at all the men staring at me and was suddenly scared.

“Nothing, I’m um, just going now,” I said as I put my Blackberry down instead of taking the picture around him and went home.

Hours later, I was at a New Year’s Day party when my phone rang. It was my credit card company asking if my card was in my possession because there were odd charges on it. I looked at my wallet and saw that all my cash was gone and the cards. It suddenly dawned on me that the “pool guy” had been inside the house.

I called 911 and the D.C. police met me at the house.When they heard the story, they called in a detective. I got a long lecture about facing down criminals alone. They searched the big house top-to-bottom to look for windows or doors left unlocked by the bad guys to come back for more. Now I was scared. I had promised to watch my friend’s dog, which meant I was spending the night.

I was alone in an empty house with a useless dog. I spent the night in the master bedroom with a dresser pushed up against the inside of the door. I didn’t sleep much. I kept thinking how safer I would feel if I had a gun next to the bed.

The next day, I took to Twitter to ask about how to get a gun. The replies were disappointing: “No 2nd amend in D.C.” “Only one guy can sell weapons in DC- good luck with that.” “Call the NRA.” I knew that the Supreme Court had recently overturned the Washington’s gun ban, so I didn’t understand why gun owners were so down on my idea. My friends came back the next day, but I sill wondered why I couldn’t get a gun.

The following summer, D.C. mayoral candidate and then-city council Chairman Vincent Gray was at my neighborhood picnic. I approached Mr. Gray as he was glad-handing in the basketball courts and told him that I wanted two things: to stop the parking ticket assault in this city and a gun.

His smile faded. “A what?” he asked, leaning down to hear me.

“A GUN. I want a gun.” I said emphatically. “I don’t know what’s going on in this city, but apparently no one is listening to the Supreme Court.”

“Well, um, Emily is it? Let me introduce you to my campaign chairman,” Mr. Gray said, leading me away toward a guy with a clipboard. That would be the politician’s equivalent of “talk to the hand.” Mr. Gray went on to be elected mayor of D.C.

Recently, current city council chairman Kwame Brown came to The Washington Times for a roundtable interview. After he’d been asked about the budget, lottery, ethics and education, I raised my hand. “Can I ask you about guns in DC?”

“You say guns?” the chairman asked.

“Guns,” I replied as I held up both of my hands in the shape of a handgun, like they do in “Charlie’s Angels.”
“Oh you used both your fingers,” Mr. Brown said, laughing. “You’re a shooter, you use both of them.”

I didn’t laugh with him. “Well, I’m trying to get a gun,” I said.

“You’re trying to get a gun?” he repeated.

This is not going to be easy.

I want a gun to protect myself, but it seems my city government officials may work against me. There’s only one way to find out if that’s the case and that by going through all the hoops. Keep watching this space or follow me on Twitter to see how the story unfolds.

Next in the series: Inside D.C.’s Gun Registry

“Emily Gets Her Gun” is a new series following Senior Editor Emily Miller as she legally tries to get her hands on a gun in the nation’s capital.
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Jon Scott of Fox News interviewed Emily Miller about the D.C. case of Mark Witaschek, who was found guilty this week of having unregistered muzzleloader bullets at home.

Ms. Miller is a registered gun owner in the District, so she could lawfully possess the shotgun shell and ammunition round she brought to the studio. The video of the March 27 “Happening Now” show is below.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPPuDbPUY-I[/youtube]
 
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Could be an April fools joke, but who knows:

Breaking: LaPierre steps down, Spika steps up as new NRA chief

In a move that has the gun community buzzing, the National Rifle Association announced today that Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre has stepped down as the head of the nation’s gun lobby for undisclosed reasons.

Replacing LaPierre will be N. Stephanie Spika, the organization’s standout social media manager.
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When will this end, with the banning of pencils?

H.S. Student Suspended, Given 5-Hr Psych ‘Evaluation’ for Making ‘Gun Gesture’ with a Pencil (Video)

H.S. Student Suspended, Given 5-Hr Psych ‘Evaluation’ for Making ‘Gun Gesture’ with a Pencil (Video)

Gun-paranoid educrats are at it once again.

A North Jersey teen was suspended for “twirling a pencil” in a Vernon class. And despite that the whole “incident” may have been a mere charade by another student to get him in trouble, the school went to extreme lengths to treat him like a potential psycho-killer.

Seventh-grader Ethan Chaplin has been home from school for two days now after getting in trouble in math class. He says he was just twisting around a pencil with a pen cap on it when a student behind him yelled, “He’s making gun motions, send him to juvie.”

Yep, that’s it.

Ethan says the other student had bullied him earlier in the day, and was now trying to retaliate. But the school told Ethan he was suspended, pending the outcome of a psychological evaluation.


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNe0sXWFdgQ[/youtube]

“I’m absolutely livid,” says his father, Michael Chaplin. “I think it’s gross misconduct at its finest. They took something so minimal and took it so far over the edge.”

Vernon Schools Superintendent Charles Maranzano says school policy and the law requires him to investigate when anyone in a school feels uncomfortable or threatened by another student.

“We never know what’s percolating in the minds of children,” says Maranzano. “And when they demonstrate behaviors that raise red flags, we must do our duty.”

Ethan says administrators did not listen to his side of the story. He underwent a five-hour physical and psychological evaluation, which came back clean.

He’s now waiting to find out when he can return to school.

Sheer insanity.
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I'd give them a reason to suspend me after I got done beating the hell out of the kid who said to send me to juvenile if I was him.
 
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RockyTop411 said:
I'd give them a reason to suspend me after I got done beating the hell out of the kid who said to send me to juvenile if I was him.
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If I was the parent, I'd have a hard time not beating the teacher and the principle for that garbage. These people are retarded.
 
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I wouldn't make it through the first day of school with the rules today.

Just about all the guys carried pocket knives, all boys had opening day of rifle season as an excused absence. If you played sports you had to be at school by lunch to be eligible so by the afternoon half the cars in the parking lot had at least one gun.
 
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Conditioning has to begin in the schools. It's jumped the shark to such a degree there isn't even a viable argument that any of it is about safety. This extent of lunacy can't be explained by rationalizing a benevolent intent. (IMO)
 
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hndog609 said:
conditioning has to begin in the schools. It's jumped the shark to such a degree there isn't even a viable argument that any of it is about safety. This extent of lunacy can't be explained by rationalizing a benevolent intent. (imo)
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This just went to crazy talk times 100! :blink: :stop:

Eric Holder: Gun Owners Should Wear ‘Smart Gun’ Bracelets

Eric Holder: Gun Owners Should Wear ‘Smart Gun’ Bracelets

Attorney General Eric Holder wants to explore “common sense” gun reforms, like mandating that gun owners would have to wear bracelets before they could activate their firearms.

Holder made his remarks while testifying before a U.S. House of Representatives appropriations committee on Friday. He acknowledged the existence of the Second Amendment, which gives people the unqualified right to own and carry weapons, but nevertheless expressed support for several gun control measures that he described as “common sense reforms,” according to The Washington Free Beacon.

“One of the things we learned when we were trying to pass those common sense reforms last year, Vice President Biden and I had a meeting with a group of technology people and talked about how guns can be made more safe by making them either though fingerprint identification, the gun talks to a bracelet that you might wear, how guns can be used only by the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon,” said Holder, referring to so-called “smart gun” technology.

“It’s those kinds of things that I think we want to try to explore so that people have the ability to enjoy their Second Amendment rights while at the same time decreasing the misuse of weapons that lead to the kinds of things we see on a daily basis, where people, kids especially, are struck down.”

A smart gun requires the shooter to be wearing a bracelet or watch with an RFID chip that communicates with the gun and allows it to fire.
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Gun bracelet idea for gun owners: Holder and Biden meet with 'technology people'

Gun bracelet idea for gun owners: Holder and Biden meet with 'technology people'



Attorney General Eric Holder and Vice President Joe Biden are exploring ideas that will make guns safer. One of the ideas that Holder brought up during a House appropriations subcommittee was that gun owners could wear a bracelet that talks to the gun. Holden and Biden met with a group of "technology people" and they offered up a couple of feasible suggestions for tracking guns and keeping them safer, according to the Town Hall on April 8.

The bracelet works by holding the information of the lawful user and somehow allows the gun to work for only that person. Holder told the subcommittee on Friday that finger print identification and bracelets are the two things that would work on making guns safer.

A fingerprint identification, which would be installed in a gun, would only let the gun fire for its owner. The other idea of the bracelet worn by the gun owner, somehow has the gun talk to the bracelet. The weapon could only be fired by “the person who is lawfully in possession of the weapon,” said Holder. Holder didn't explain exactly how the "gun talks to the bracelet," but apparently it is all within the realm of new technology. According to Freedom Outpost:

"Such smart technologies require biometric data for guns to work, including everything from triggers that scan fingerprints to RFID bracelets."

Holder wants to make sure people can “enjoy their second amendment right” while at the same time keeping guns safe by keeping the guns from firing while in the hands of someone who shouldn’t have it. He mentioned that news stories are heard on a constant basis where kids get a hold of a gun and the tragic outcome that often comes along with this.

Listen to Holden's gun safety bracelet and fingerprint identification suggestions on the two minute video clip below.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/v/1E3bnUGkua8[/youtube]
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DC_Vol said:
Eric Holder is a dumbass. There's really no other way to say it. Except corrupt dumbass.
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He's a rigid ideologue like his boss whose entire agenda is to promote social justice as opposed to real justice , ie Benghazi , IRS , and much more. By far one the most corrupt and inept AG's in my lifetime.. Imo
 
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The bracelet kinda messes with the concealed part of concealed carry don't it? See someone with the bracelet on and you can probably guess the rest - a different form of "printing"
 
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might as well put the chip in us.

do I have to wear the thing 24/7 - if I wake up at 2am do I need to get my device on first before I can use my gun?
 
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