BREAKING NEWS!!!Cuonzo Martin removes name from Marquette search

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omghulkhands said:
We don't know when CCM "withdrew" his name and when wojo was interviewed in comparison. We don't know the process they have. At least not to my current knowledge.



This is semantic. I would argue that you can't withdraw from something you are not enrolled in.
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We do know that Wojo interviewed yesterday and it seems CM withdrew his name last night.

I just think it was Wojo all along. Marquette hires nothing but assistants almost. The couple that weren't assistants ended up burning them.
 
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Who cares what transpired, Coach Zo is back and deserves the fan base's support, as well as the boosters. The program has great momentum right now and we should all ride that wave. No point in hatin on UT's basketball coach, it's not helping anyone.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
We do know that Wojo interviewed yesterday and it seems CM withdrew his name last night.

I just think it was Wojo all along. Marquette hires nothing but assistants almost. The couple that weren't assistants ended up burning them.
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Agree.

Looking at it objectively...which of the two would be more likely to blow the doors off an interview??
 
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Lizzard28 said:
Who cares what transpired, Coach Zo is back and deserves the fan base's support, as well as the boosters. The program has great momentum right now and we should all ride that wave. No point in hatin on UT's basketball coach, it's not helping anyone.
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BigZiti09 said:
Withdrew name is not the same as turning down the job.

I can withdraw my name as well. I can't say I turned down the job because it wasn't offered to me.
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Maybe the wife didn't want to move to Wisconsin! ya never know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Now go get some top elite recruits none of this project sh@t, somebody that can step on the court and make a impact now not next year.
 
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Fullfillmer said:
All I know is that Las Vegas had Tennessee as the 19th best team in the country prior to the Tournament and one of the power rating polls had us as even higher. This was a team with a lot of talent. To infer we didn't underachieve during the regular season would be incorrect. This was a top 20 team talent wise.
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Yes...CCM and the team earned that post-season respect by improving thoughout the season, and finishing strong. But we were not ranked in the AP or Coaches preseason poll based on roster and talent alone. Nor did we make the Top 25 during the season.
 
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terrypedigo said:
He might be waiting to go home if his school has another bad year next year, they will be in line for a coach.
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If Purdue has another bad year, Painter's seat will be getting hot, but he won't be gone unless it is a complete train wreck. As of now, Purdue will be starting a 4* player at every position and bringing 2 off the bench, so I would say there is at least hope.
 
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ansleyr815 said:
Yes...CCM and the team earned that post-season respect by improving thoughout the season, and finishing strong. But we were not ranked in the AP or Coaches preseason poll based on roster and talent alone. Nor did we make the Top 25 during the season.
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We weren't ranked during the season, because we were too busy losing basketball games.
 
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Lizzard28 said:
Who cares what transpired, Coach Zo is back and deserves the fan base's support, as well as the boosters.
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Coach Zo is back? News to me. Just because he isn't going to Marquette doesn't mean he is back.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Except that's not what you said. You said "if you make the sweet 16 isn't that really saying you're one of the 16 best teams in the country."

It means you finished in the top 16 teams of the NCAA tournament. I personally don't believe for a minute that Dayton is a better team than Wichita State. I gave examples last year that the Coaches Poll, whom I was informed is one of two end all, be all rankings, didn't agree that finishing in the sweet 16 made you one of the best 16 teams. That it didn't in the opinion of the coaches, mean they were better than a team that lost in the 1st round.

In a for instance, Georgia went 4-12 in the SEC in 2008, but got hot and won the SEC tournament. Did that mean they were the best team in the SEC that year? Not to me, it just meant they were better than the 4 teams they played on the 4 days they played them. That's just how tournament basketball can work sometimes.
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Conference tourneys has nothing to do with what we are talking about. And the 16 best teams in the country is not always the ranked teams 1-16 in the AP/coaches polls. What I said was that I think if you finish in the sweet sixteen you finish in the too 16 in that year. That's how you finished with 16 teams left playing and your one of them, witch is a better finish than any pre-season poll you posted
 
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ukvols said:
We weren't ranked during the season, because we were too busy losing basketball games.
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Why weren't they ranked in the preaseason with the best roster ever assembled in the history of the ultraverse?

The fact is, there were a bunch of questions regarding the roster coming into the season.

PG?
SF?
PF?

The answers turned out be:

PG - Well, that one never got answered, but Barton played well down the stretch

SF - Answered in a big way.

PF - The answer was, no, Maymon was not even remotely the same player before the knee surgery.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
Why weren't they ranked in the preaseason with the best roster ever assembled in the history of the ultraverse?

The fact is, there were a bunch of questions regarding the roster coming into the season.

PG?
SF?
PF?

The answers turned out be:

PG - Well, that one never got answered, but Barton played well down the stretch

SF - Answered in a big way.

PF - The answer was, no, Maymon was not even remotely the same player before the knee surgery.
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They were ranked by a ton of basketball publications. Generally between 17th and 29th. Maymon averaged the same rebounds, two fewer points and .5 less turnovers than his best season at UT. He was much better than anyone will give him credit for this season.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'm speaking about now. Since the post I quoted thought we were going to fire him regardless, why wouldn't we still do it today?
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Missed that part of the quote :hi:...good question...he hasn't done anything to warrant a firing
 
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Did Michigan have more talent than we did? I didn't see it. They had a couple of very good outside shooters, but we had three bona-fide tournament caliber players too. They had a better coach. I think UT underachieved most of the year, then put together a nice NCAA run that might be a bit overblown because we really didn't beat anybody good. We'll see if Martin can build on it==he's ours, baby!
 
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When did he pull his name after he was told he wasn't getting the job? He still got on a plane and went for an interview. Not a VFL in my opinion.
 
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OrangeAllDay said:
Conference tourneys has nothing to do with what we are talking about. And the 16 best teams in the country is not always the ranked teams 1-16 in the AP/coaches polls. What I said was that I think if you finish in the sweet sixteen you finish in the too 16 in that year. That's how you finished with 16 teams left playing and your one of them, witch is a better finish than any pre-season poll you posted
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I'm not sure what to make of this.

And now you've changed your statement for the 3rd time. Once again, you said if you finish in the sweet 16, you're one of the 16 best teams in the country.

I don't agree. The conference tournament example is a good one. Does Georgia winning the 2008 tournament mean they were the best team in the SEC even though they were 4-12? Not at all I'd contend.

Just better than the teams they beat on the day they played them. Same with making the sweet 16, that doesn't mean you're one of the 16 best teams, just that you were able to beat 2 or 3 teams on the day you faced up with them.

I think Wichita was better than probably half the teams that made the Sweet 16, but they had to play the most talented team in the tourney in the second round.
 
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I don't get on twtter, so I was curious if anyone has seen any reaction by the players or recruits to this announcement of Cuonzo staying?
 
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VolArmy74 said:
They were ranked by a ton of basketball publications. Generally between 17th and 29th. Maymon averaged the same rebounds, two fewer points and .5 less turnovers than his best season at UT. He was much better than anyone will give him credit for this season.
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Maymon was crippled and could not jump or finish at the rim consistently. As a senior he should have been significantly better than as a sophomore. If you saw the same guy on the court this year as you did in his sophomore year, you really are crazy. I'm not saying he was a bad player this year, but I wouldn't say he was much better than average, and had a real hard time guarding anyone that could actually move around a little bit.
 
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volfanjustin said:
ok, please let us know the raise and buyout numbers since you know this has happened.
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where did I say the numbers were known? I tend to stay away from definitive statements when the facts aren't all in. Evidently others don't need to
 
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OrangeBalls said:
I hope people don't act like jackasses if he decides to stay. The guy has never done anything to embarrass the university and his players keep their nose clean for the most part. If he comes back, he deserves our support until he proves otherwise. Time will tell.
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If you read this thread you might see what you hoped against. :crazy:

The internet portion of our fanbase is bipolar and immature.
 
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armchair said:
Did Michigan have more talent than we did? I didn't see it. They had a couple of very good outside shooters, but we had three bona-fide tournament caliber players too. They had a better coach. I think UT underachieved most of the year, then put together a nice NCAA run that might be a bit overblown because we really didn't beat anybody good. We'll see if Martin can build on it==he's ours, baby!
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Did Michigan have more talent?

PG - 4* ranked # 37 nationally
SG - 4* ranked # 72 nationally (big 10 player of the year)
SF - 4* unranked (second leading scorer)
PF - 5* ranked #11 nationally
C - 3* unranked (experienced senior)

Bench

Zak Irvin - 5* ranked 24th nationally

I would say Michigan was loaded with talent.
 
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