Who was the fool who posted Obama isn't a socialist,

[PKT_VOL]

Realistically I think of the democrat party as the communist party and republican party as fellow travelers and that is pretty much what they are at the top.

The fact that you think either party is communist is very telling imo.

Maybe you have a future in politics.

I'm too real for Washington. I couldn't campaign either.

The language in the constitution is simple enough.

Yes, but the interpretation is where things go awry.

About being cheated out of his win.

That is not fact.

Does seems shady. Not sure they will ever know who truly won.

There have been at least 52 arrests and numerous law suits filed. I think anyone is stupid to ignore this problem.

Never said anything about it not being a problem.

What you said is completely different. I was trying to get you to realize the stupidity of your hyperbole.

Reducing deficits was part of his plan.

How so? I didn't hear it.

Serious question.

Put aside his lifelong associations with marxists and those he has appointed, Obamacare, auto mfgt takeover and energy policy alone mean that anyone with a IQ above freezing can plainly see he is a socialist.

One of the most prominent socialists in America said; "Americans will never openly embrace socialism but they will accept liberalism and some day will wake up and realize they have become a socialist nation."

It's the gradualist approach that is killing us.

Again, there is nothing you can point to in his first four years that would validate him being a socialist.

I don't disagree with that quote.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Eh... the Fascist talk against suspected communist uprisings have been going on since WWI, if Keynesian Economics is communism, why was FDR not attacked?
Its not, it affects taxing, that's it. Communism dissolves private property, private sector business, all means of production... if you truly believe that is the goal of this administration, you need help.

1) Wrong, it's a form of socialism. Not communism yet because it deals with the economics of a society, not property ownership.....that comes later when the Keynesian Economic system finally fails.
2) No, it is redistribution of wealth THROUGH TAXATION. You conveniently forget that side of it. Therefore, socialism.



Pretty simple when you look at the whole picture and not just the bits and pieces that you want to look at to justify a poor choice.

 

[PKT_VOL]

1) Wrong, it's a form of socialism. Not communism yet because it deals with the economics of a society, not property ownership.....that comes later when the Keynesian Economic system finally fails.

No. By this argument, every economy ever has been socialist because there has never been a true free market.

2) No, it is redistribution of wealth THROUGH TAXATION. You conveniently forget that side of it. Therefore, socialism.

Look at my comment above. Taxation =/= socialism.

Taxation is necessary for any government to survive.

 

[82_VOL_83]

No. By this argument, every economy ever has been socialist because there has never been a true free market.



Look at my comment above. Taxation =/= socialism.

Taxation is necessary for any government to survive.

All true. The problem is how and where to draw the lines.....thus our NEVER changing political climate.

 

[gsvol]

The fact that you think either party is communist is very telling imo.

Tells you what?

What about the CPUSA endorcements of Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama and their ecstactic claims after both Obma vicories?

Your denial is also telling.

I'm too real for Washington. I couldn't campaign either.

You're not that real to me.

Yes, but the interpretation is where things go awry.

It's a matter of defining 'is?'

That is not fact.

Does seems shady. Not sure they will ever know who truly won.

How about the media?

Watch this:


Media admitting voter fraud in Allen West race. - YouTube

Col Allen West; “I don’t want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic”.

Never said anything about it not being a problem.

What you said is completely different. I was trying to get you to realize the stupidity of your hyperbole.

No hyperbole about it, your claim projects ignorance.

Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012

Is this what Barack Obama calls a "ground game?" All things considered, on this page and elsewhere, Mitt Romney IS our President elect.
---------------------

Yes, this is the same George Soros who owns part of the company in Spain Obama outsourced parts of the election to and who has been banned from Hungary because he tampered with elections there.

The evidence is overwhelming!
VIDEO: Eyewitness of Somali Muslim voter fraud in OHIO by Obama camp - Atlas Shrugs

Voter Fraud in Florida Analyzed by Allen West - Sean Hannity - 11-12-12 - YouTube
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138
Obama Stole the Election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LbOtYQceBxI-
Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting Machines - YouTube
Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers - YouTube
Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election - YouTube
Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers - YouTube
Vote Fraud - Diebold Whistleblower Speaks Out - YouTube

Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012
OBAMA STOLE THE ELECTION - Newt Gingrich 360
Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99 Percent Of The Vote In More Than 100 Ohio Precincts
Ample evidence that Obama stole the 2012 election
Stolen Election? Evidence Is Mounting Everything Points To Stolen Votes | Election 2012
Adding up the evidence
Allen West, Mitt Romney and the Massive Voter Fraud Machine
How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures
Voter Fraud | Fox News Insider
Voter fraud is no myth -- it's more common than you think - Conservative News
Was the 2012 Election Stolen « The Will County News
Obama Stole Election? | Fox News Video
THE BIG LIST of vote fraud reports

Go to Political and religious censorship by Facebook and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.
Bro. Winter Christian Bible teacher Jesus Name Apostolic Holiness Church - Oneness Pentecostal
Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama and his religion

‘Obama Voter Fraud’ on FaceBook-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488176621204089&set=a.488176614537423.110863.488173144537770&type=1&theater";;;-
Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
Petition for Recount on the 2012 Presidential Election | Petition2Congress
Another petition, The ‘We The People’ petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p

How so? I didn't hear it.

Serious question.

You've never heard of the Ryan plan presented to congress?

Amazing.

Again, there is nothing you can point to in his first four years that would validate him being a socialist.

Obamacare isn't socialist?

lol:

I don't disagree with that quote.

So you have no problem with the menshiviks or what?

 

[PKT_VOL]

Tells you what?

What about the CPUSA endorcements of Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama and their ecstactic claims after both Obma vicories?

Your denial is also telling.

If you could tell me how Clinton, Gore, Kerry, or Obama qualify as a communist, then I am all ears.

You're not that real to me.

What is that suppose to mean?

It's a matter of defining 'is?'

Channelling your inner Clinton?

How about the media?

Watch this:

Media admitting voter fraud in Allen West race. - YouTube

Col Allen West; “I don’t want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic”.

Like I said before, there are legitimate concerns with that race.

No hyperbole about it, your claim projects ignorance.

Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012

The evidence is overwhelming!
VIDEO: Eyewitness of Somali Muslim voter fraud in OHIO by Obama camp - Atlas Shrugs

Voter Fraud in Florida Analyzed by Allen West - Sean Hannity - 11-12-12 - YouTube
https://www.facebook.com/lori.patriot/posts/404694619604138
Obama Stole the Election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LbOtYQceBxI-
Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting Machines - YouTube
Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers - YouTube
Michael Savage: How Obama fixed 2012 election - YouTube
Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers - YouTube
Vote Fraud - Diebold Whistleblower Speaks Out - YouTube

Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012
OBAMA STOLE THE ELECTION - Newt Gingrich 360
Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99 Percent Of The Vote In More Than 100 Ohio Precincts
Ample evidence that Obama stole the 2012 election
Stolen Election? Evidence Is Mounting Everything Points To Stolen Votes | Election 2012
Adding up the evidence
Allen West, Mitt Romney and the Massive Voter Fraud Machine
How Widespread is Voter Fraud? | 2012 Facts & Figures
Voter Fraud | Fox News Insider
Voter fraud is no myth -- it's more common than you think - Conservative News
Was the 2012 Election Stolen « The Will County News
Obama Stole Election? | Fox News Video
THE BIG LIST of vote fraud reports

Go to Political and religious censorship by Facebook and see the documentation of their censorship and harassment.
Bro. Winter Christian Bible teacher Jesus Name Apostolic Holiness Church - Oneness Pentecostal
Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama and his religion

‘Obama Voter Fraud’ on FaceBook-
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488176621204089&set=a.488176614537423.110863.488173144537770&type=1&theater";;;-
Sign their petition- over 99,000 and counting -cards, email
Petition for Recount on the 2012 Presidential Election | Petition2Congress
Another petition, The ‘We The People’ petition has 60,000 signatures and counting-
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recount-election/ZQmy0Mlv#thank-you=p

I am not seeing millions of votes here.

You've never heard of the Ryan plan presented to congress?

Amazing.

I did hear of it. I also heard where Romney completely renounced Ryan's plan.

Amazing you did hear that little bit of information. That changes everything.

Obamacare isn't socialist?

lol:

Not even close. Feel free to tell me how it is. I'm all ears.

So you have no problem with the menshiviks or what?

Like I said, I have no problem that quote. It is very true in my opinion.

 

[BigPapaVol]

so pkt is arguing that obamacare isn't socialist? did I really see that?

we have a tax for opting out of a system and it isn't socialist? make that make sense for me.

 

[PKT_VOL]

so pkt is arguing that obamacare isn't socialist? did I really see that?

we have a tax for opting out of a system and it isn't socialist? make that make sense for me.

It is not socialism.

It is certainly anti-free market. Quasi-socialism in not socialism. Anti-free market is not socialism.

 

[UTRavens]

Tells you what?

What about the CPUSA endorcements of Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Obama and their ecstactic claims after both Obma vicories?

White supremacists endorsed Ron Paul for president. Clearly, Ron Paul is a white supremacist.

 

[gsvol]

so pkt is arguing that obamacare isn't socialist? did I really see that?

we have a tax for opting out of a system and it isn't socialist? make that make sense for me.

“It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
Ronald Reagan

If you could tell me how Clinton, Gore, Kerry, or Obama qualify as a communist, then I am all ears.

Clinton and his visit to Mowcow while he was ann Oxford student.

Gore raised on the knee of a Soviet agent.

Kerry meetin in Paris with the vietcong leaders and being a champion for the Sandinistas in Nicaruaga.

Use you google.

What is that suppose to mean?

Means you are as ignorant as a box of rocks to me.

Channelling your inner Clinton?

:no:

Like I said before, there are legitimate concerns with that race.

It was a rippoff, plain and simple.

Furthermore the republican party was also to blame because they redistricted, knowingly putting him at risk involving those leftist voters.

I am not seeing millions of votes here.

So how many are you seeing?

I did hear of it. I also heard where Romney completely renounced Ryan's plan.

Amazing you did hear that little bit of information. That changes everything.

Can you doccument the Romney renouncement to the Ryan plan?

I've heard very little information about the Johnson plan.

Perhaps you would care to present it here?

Not even close. Feel free to tell me how it is. I'm all ears.

You're just being silly now, however I appreciate you efforts to draw forth the satupid fuvk I'm fishing for.

Like I said, I have no problem that quote. It is very true in my opinion.

If I'm lying I'm dying.

 

[Carl Pickens]

It is not socialism.

It is certainly anti-free market. Quasi-socialism in not socialism. Anti-free market is not socialism.

Come on PKT.....it is without a doubt it is a form of socialism

Definition of SOCIALISM

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods 2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state 3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done lism..

 

[gsvol]

White supremacists endorsed Ron Paul for president. Clearly, Ron Paul is a white supremacist.