Way too early bracketology

[BigZiti09]

Dude stop reaching. Those other teams had multiple first round picks and or lottery picks that actually came out after that season. If you count all players on the rosters at least 20 teams at the very minimum had more players drafted with first round picks. Second round picks without guaranteed contracts who don't even play a seasons with of games in their NBA career aren't exactly NBA players.

Teams from that year with more NBA talent and higher draft picks.

UF, Kansas, SU, UNC, Stanford, Az, Wis, Ok State, Gonzaga, Baylor, Oklahoma, UVA, Nova, Iowa State, MSU, UCONN, UM, St Joes, WSU, Michigan, Duke, UL, NC State, UK, Memphis, ND, Indiana.


Pitt, Creighton, UC, Texas, Oregon, Marquette all about even. There are a few more with about the same amount of talent that year.

We were ranked were we should have been. Around 30. We almost made the Elite Eight with top 25-35 talent.

You can't underachieve in a basketball season until its over or you are eliminated from the postseason. There have been NCAA champs with a bunch of head scratchers during the season. No one cares. Basketball is about the postseason.

Now stop lying about us having top 15 talent. I named over 15 teams that have multiple players that are active NBA players. We have one from that year that wasn't even developed yet.

The math doesn't add up. Just like it didn't let time you started spewing this bs.

The 2014 draft class supplied the NBA with about 150 NBA players to hear you tell it. Get a grip.

 

[k-town_king]

The math doesn't add up. Just like it didn't let time you started spewing this bs.

The 2014 draft class supplied the NBA with about 150 NBA players to hear you tell it. Get a grip.

You are counting J Rich as an NBA player from that team. If you count him as an NBA player you have to do that for all teams. Going by that the teams I named from that year all have MULTIPLE NBA players on multiyear contracts that are actual NBA players. We have one.

All those teams were also ranked in the preseason. Maybe the media actually judged the talent objectively instead overinflating expectations just to have something to complain about.

If you want to go by just that draft we have no NBA players from that team. We had two second round picks that aren't NBA players anymore. They combined to appear in 87 games total for their NBA "careers". The other teams have first round picks from that year and players who have started NBA games and played multiple seasons.

Ziti you are wrong. Just man up and take this L.

 

[BigZiti09]

You are counting J Rich as an NBA player from that team. If you count him as an NBA player you have to do that for all teams. Going by that the teams I named from that year all have MULTIPLE NBA players on multiyear contracts that are actual NBA players. We have one.

All those teams were also ranked in the preseason. Maybe the media actually judged the talent objectively instead overinflating expectations just to have something to complain about.

If you want to go by just that draft we have no NBA players from that team. We had two second round picks that aren't NBA players anymore. They combined to appear in 87 games total for their NBA "careers". The other teams have first round picks from that year and players who have started NBA games and played multiple seasons.

Ziti you are wrong. Just man up and take this L.

3 players drafted off that team. 2 drafted that summer.

You can say nba player or pro or whatever you want to move the goal posts but you can't change the fact that team had 3 upperclassmen that were later drafted. Two of which were drafted that summer.

That was a very talented team any way you slice it. The fact they weren't ranked in the preseason is a reflection of what the media thought about the coach more so than the talent level.

The only one taking an L in this convo is you. Per usual.

 

[BigZiti09]

Number of players drafted 2003-2011: 2 - Tobias and Scotty

Number of players drafted in 2014: 2 - Jarnell and Jordy

2006-2011 we had no problem getting ranked at some point during each of those years or getting a 2, 5, 2, 9, 6, and 9 seed in the tourney.

2014 team also had a guy who was drafted the next year.

For Tennessee, the 2014 roster was very talented and we've seen what a good coach can do here. Anyone who argues that team wasn't very talented is not living in reality.

 

[k-town_king]

3 players drafted off that team. 2 drafted that summer.

You can say nba player or pro or whatever you want to move the goal posts but you can't change the fact that team had 3 upperclassmen that were later drafted. Two of which were drafted that summer.

That was a very talented team any way you slice it. The fact they weren't ranked in the preseason is a reflection of what the media thought about the coach more so than the talent level.

The only one taking an L in this convo is you. Per usual.

Number of players drafted 2003-2011: 2 - Tobias and Scotty

Number of players drafted in 2014: 2 - Jarnell and Jordy

2006-2011 we had no problem getting ranked at some point during each of those years or getting a 2, 5, 2, 9, 6, and 9 seed in the tourney.

2014 team also had a guy who was drafted the next year.

For Tennessee, the 2014 roster was very talented and we've seen what a good coach can do here. Anyone who argues that team wasn't very talented is not living in reality.

Ziti you don't seem like a dumb person but you are making a dumb argument.


You are trying to change the goalposts though not me. Someone else used the term pros. I don't care what term you use or how you measure.

The media expectations that year and the pro careers of the team show we were not a top 20 talented roster. We were a top 30ish team that got robbed or we would have went to the Elite Eight tying our best finish ever. Therefore we overachieved. Period.

Media does not drop a team ten spots preseason due to who the coach is. Stop making bs up.

 

[BigZiti09]

Ziti you don't seem like a dumb person but you are making a dumb argument.


You are trying to change the goalposts though not me. Someone else used the term pros. I don't care what term you use or how you measure.

The media expectations that year and the pro careers of the team show we were not a top 20 talented roster. We were a top 30ish team that got robbed or we would have went to the Elite Eight tying our best finish ever. Therefore we overachieved. Period.

Media does not drop a team ten spots preseason due to who the coach is. Stop making bs up.

2 guys drafted in 2014 and a junior that was drafted the following year. Talented.

Spin it however you want.

The media absolutely takes into consideration who is coaching. Suggesting otherwise is dumb.

 

[k-town_king]

2 guys drafted in 2014 and a junior that was drafted the following year. Talented.

Spin it however you want.

The media absolutely takes into consideration who is coaching. Suggesting otherwise is dumb.

Talented and top 15 talent are two COMPLETELY different things. We did have talent. We had a few guys with pro careers. The top teams had way more pros and draft picks though. We finished higher that year than our talent level and ranking.

 

[iKrager]

I agree. 4 future professional basketball players rings more true. Ouch tho, after thinking about it that way makes the start to that season sting even worse.

I would say a lot of Power 5 players have the chance to play professional basketball. So that really doesn't hold much water.

 

[iKrager]

2 guys drafted in 2014 and a junior that was drafted the following year. Talented.

Spin it however you want.

The media absolutely takes into consideration who is coaching. Suggesting otherwise is dumb.

Can't believe you guys are still arguing about this. IT DOES NOT MATTER.