Trump proposes amending the First Amendment

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luthervol said:
It certainly makes up a portion of all campaign strategies, but I think McDad was rightfully pointing out that Trump has perfected the practice. While the practice may account for 5, 10, or even 20% of the votes for most politicians, it accounts for a far higher percentage of Trump votes.
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Your assumptions of Trump voters is as ridiculous as your love of Socialism.
 
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Trump really isn't going to do anything with libel laws. He's the king of defaming others, and this would only backfire on him. Hell, Obama could even sue Trump for libel since he accused the former president of illegally wiretapping his phones.

Trumps libel nonsense is just his standard smokescreen / legal threat straight out of his playbook.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This morning he said that the administration is going to look at libel laws to try to make it easier for people like him to Sue when he feels that he has been aggrieved. The law in this area is well settled because he is a public official. It is purely a First Amendment issue. It is not a question of a statute. The only way to get what he wants, is to change first amendment law profoundly.
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It doesn't sound like attacking freedom of speech but outright slander.

Sounds like good ole Hollywood would love that law
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump Renews Pledge to ‘Take a Strong Look’ at Libel Laws - The New York Times

There is no statute on libel laws for public officials. It's a case law standard interpreting the First Amendment. That is the only thing he can "look into."
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Nowhere has he proposed amending the First Amendment as you claim in the title.

Even if libel laws were changed it would not represent an amendment or change to the First Amendment.

But of course you already knew that
 
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volinbham said:
Nowhere has he proposed amending the First Amendment as you claim in the title.

Even if libel laws were changed it would not represent an amendment or change to the First Amendment.

But of course you already knew that
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<psst>

LG, gonna LG. Just let him roll.
 
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volinbham said:
Nowhere has he proposed amending the First Amendment as you claim in the title.

Even if libel laws were changed it would not represent an amendment or change to the First Amendment.

But of course you already knew that
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Well, I think he was saying that any law that attempted to alter libel laws would be unconstitutional on its face. Therefore the only way to change it would be through constitutional amendment. However, such a string of logic gives way too much credit to Trump.
 
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volinbham said:
Nowhere has he proposed amending the First Amendment as you claim in the title.

Even if libel laws were changed it would not represent an amendment or change to the First Amendment.

But of course you already knew that
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The source of all "libel laws" concerning public officials IS the First Amendment. You can't change the "libel laws" unless you restrict the heart of the First Amendment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The source of all "libel laws" concerning public officials IS the First Amendment. You can't change the "libel laws" unless you restrict the heart of the First Amendment.
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Sure wish you felt this way about the second.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The source of all "libel laws" concerning public officials IS the First Amendment. You can't change the "libel laws" unless you restrict the heart of the First Amendment.
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So then Obama repeatedly proposed amending the 2nd amendment?

Or did he propose gun restrictions that may not stand up to Constitutional review.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Well, I think he was saying that any law that attempted to alter libel laws would be unconstitutional on its face. Therefore the only way to change it would be through constitutional amendment. However, such a string of logic gives way too much credit to Trump.
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1. I doubt ANY attempt to alter libel laws would be unconstitutional on it's face - depends on the alteration. I presume that some changes have been made to libel related laws since the Constitution was adopted.

2. Any new law that is ultimately deemed unconstitutional is not typically considered an attempt to "amend the Constitution".

It's needless sensationalism but as GV says LG gonna LG

Carry on
 
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Only a matter of time before it is abolished entirely. Trump will get the ball rolling, and someone later will finish it off. Only a matter of time. We have a country full of people that worship the autocratic police state. Eventually they will get their wish.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Only a matter of time before it is abolished entirely. Trump will get the ball rolling, and someone later will finish it off. Only a matter of time. We have a country full of people that worship the autocratic police state. Eventually they will get their wish.
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You support the second amendment?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Only a matter of time before it is abolished entirely. Trump will get the ball rolling, and someone later will finish it off. Only a matter of time. We have a country full of people that worship the autocratic police state. Eventually they will get their wish.
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Where is this police state you are referring to?
 
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hog88 said:
Do you support laws that limit it?
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The two amendments are not comparable. But both are necessary. One ensures the other.

But yes, I don't think Jimmy needs a grenade launcher. I also don't think our police force needs them either.

Free speech isn't going to kill anyone. Restricting the first amendment will.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The two amendments are not comparable. But both are necessary. One ensures the other.

But yes, I don't think Jimmy needs a grenade launcher. I also don't think our police force needs them either.

Free speech isn't going to kill anyone. Restricting the first amendment will.
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Free speech has killed millions.
 
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