Squeaker in Pennsylvania

#226
#226
NorthDallas40 said:
That’s the one thing that they refuse to accept. Look I’m 53. I want a bells and whistles policy now. When I was 25 I didn’t GAF and that was my business and not theirs. As you’ve pointed out the forced benefits take away your choice and make you pay for stuff you don’t want (or need).
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at this point fiscally I need a major disease or injury. as it is I am pissing money away. its well over 200 bucks more now than it was.
 
#230
#230
It was a vote buy. Those too dumb or ignorant to understand are footing the bill. Along side those that knew better.
 
#231
#231
LouderVol said:
my numbers. Went from a minimal policy to a policy that had more bells and whistles than a 20 something guy needs. and whats worse, is if I don't have it I get taxed, err fined, err taxed?

ACA shafted me. I will have to look at the numbers again but by the end of 2018 ACA will have cost me $10,000 extra over the projected costs I would have paid without ACA.
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Per capita health care costs have risen to over $10,000 per person per year, and the rate of increase was unsustainable. Obviously, that means that if the costs were spread evenly, a family of 4 would need to be paying more than $40,000 per year for health insurance. The system was horribly broken and getting worse at an accelerated rate.

To think that the ACA was what broke the system is ridiculous. The ACA was a first and painful step necessary in order to correct a system that was spiraling out of control. Granted, there were (are) hundreds of thousands of people getting extremely wealthy that are adding nothing to the quality of health care that have a vested interest in things remaining the same.
 
#232
#232
The ACA was a blunder from the word go. No reason to candy coat what it has done and will continue to do as some magical step toward something better.

It was a failure.
 
#233
#233
luthervol said:
Per capita health care costs have risen to over $10,000 per person per year, and the rate of increase was unsustainable. Obviously, that means that if the costs were spread evenly, a family of 4 would need to be paying more than $40,000 per year for health insurance. The system was horribly broken and getting worse at an accelerated rate.

To think that the ACA was what broke the system is ridiculous. The ACA was a first and painful step necessary in order to correct a system that was spiraling out of control. Granted, there were (are) hundreds of thousands of people getting extremely wealthy that are adding nothing to the quality of health care that have a vested interest in things remaining the same.
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Spoken like a true socialist. The bigger the government the better. I am glad you champion a system that drove many physicians into retirement. You should feel good that the ACA denied many, many access to good healthcare. The ACA was almost a complete failure. There were a few good things thrown in there but for the most part it was nothing but a complete ****show concocted by the worst president in modern history.
 
#234
#234
luthervol said:
Per capita health care costs have risen to over $10,000 per person per year, and the rate of increase was unsustainable. Obviously, that means that if the costs were spread evenly, a family of 4 would need to be paying more than $40,000 per year for health insurance. The system was horribly broken and getting worse at an accelerated rate.

To think that the ACA was what broke the system is ridiculous. The ACA was a first and painful step necessary in order to correct a system that was spiraling out of control. Granted, there were (are) hundreds of thousands of people getting extremely wealthy that are adding nothing to the quality of health care that have a vested interest in things remaining the same.
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again, so they were indeed making things worse trying to make things better? never said it broke the system. in fact i would argue that it is increased access that ruined it. the system worked for those who could afford it. in fact that was the system. now that we have thrown everyone in to the system no crap the costs go up, besides other government meddling, FDA. it was a luxury item, we don't tax people for not having other luxury items.

if I can't afford something, I don't have the right to it.
 
#235
#235
hog88 said:
Was it about the same or less than the rising costs since ACA? Or about anything else over the last 20 years?
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Luther doesn't have to pay for his health insurance. His is paid by taxpayers, at least the vast majority of it. He is "involved" with the school system. I think he drives the short bus.
 
#237
#237
BeecherVol said:
The ACA was a blunder from the word go. No reason to candy coat what it has done and will continue to do as some magical step toward something better.

It was a failure.
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It's completely wrecked the individual insurance market. Unfortunately, I have first-hand experience.
 
#238
#238
1972 Grad said:
Luther doesn't have to pay for his health insurance. His is paid by taxpayers, at least the vast majority of it. He is "involved" with the school system. I think he drives the short bus.
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Takes too much competence. This seems more fitting.....

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