Recruiting Football Talk VII

[jakez4ut]

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[mrMet]

I think I’m on the trade back train. Lots of good players would be left in the late 40s, early 50s, and the titans need a 3rd round pick. Too many holes to fill. I HATE when they trade valuable picks for a washed up player then get next to nothing out of the player, like Julio Jones.

That was Jrob’s specialty. Thankfully we won’t have to worry about that

 

[rikberry31]

Tampering?

They won't be able to pin anything on him, he used Sankey as a go between.

 

[rikberry31]

I'm going to be watching to see if he spills more beans on his cheating tactics.

He is going to write a book like OJ, "How I Would Have Cheated and Held the SEC Hostage Like a Little Napoleon."

 

[rikberry31]

Sometimes being a undrafted FA isn't a bad route. Honestly better options.

I agree unless your first round pick, where the money makes up for going to a terrible team, many UDFAs have the option of choosing instead of being chosen.

 

[butchna]

As any Tennessee fan can attest to, being in pain doesn't mean you're feeling it.

As BOTH a Tennessee fan and Bear fan? I know the difference between suppressed pain and non-existent. I know what ugly and hopeless looks like…this ain’t that.

 

[DD4ME]

I thought the Bryce pick was horrible. He wasn't worth that spot even if they hadn't had to give Chicago their entire future. The continued bad decisions only validate my opinion that their front office isn't good. Probably the worst owner in the NFL, and that's saying something.

Don't disagree, but I believe Bryce can be a great QB if we don't kill him first. He might end up like Baker and take a few years to end up at the right fit.

 

[DD4ME]

How accurate is this guy

Pretty accurate. I think he mostly just reads all the pay sites and reshares, but fine by me.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

How accurate is this guy

I follow him. He nailed Dubar and Okpara. He also said Awaka was leaving before he actually announced it.

 

[itsme]

I kind of like the idea of taking that Illinois DT to pair with big Jeff. Not against Sweat either.

Also not against Dejean if he keeps falling. We need a safety

If they feel confident Burks can make progress and show he’s halfway decent, then they should go defense. But if they’re not confident, gotta take WR.

IMO, the biggest need for the Titans at this time is at LB. Cooper hopefully will be there.

 

[rikberry31]

He was misquoted.

What he really said was, Carthon: "If Latham doesn't pan out LT, at least we have a guy on the roster who makes incredible barbeque."

 

[Jackcrevol]

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gotta be yelling like 'yeehaw'.

 

[Jackcrevol]

 

[UTSuave’]

@knoxvol52 @volbeast33

 

[Devo182]

I am a baseball purist but you aren't saying that you'd rather have him hit a single than a leadoff homer, are you?

 

[DD4ME]

Guys I would trade down for in this draft.
Roman Wilson
Jaylen Wright (if he truly falls to 3rd. Or I'd trade lower in the second to get him.)
Bowers (if I had a top 10 and saw he didn't immediately go)
Rattler if I needed a project QB. I think he has similar upside to Hooker.

Before anyone @'s me about Bowers and the lowered value of tight ends name me one dominant superbowl team that did not have a HOF TE?

The unicorn in today's roster is a multifaceted tight end. They can take the lid off of defenses better than any other skill spot.

Gronk
Kelce
Novacek

 

[knoxvol52]

Guys I would trade down for in this draft.
Roman Wilson
Jaylen Wright (if he truly falls to 3rd. Or I'd trade lower in the second to get him.)
Bowers (if I had a top 10 and saw he didn't immediately go)
Rattler if I needed a project QB. I think he has similar upside to Hooker.

Before anyone @'s me about Bowers and the lowered value of tight ends name me one dominant superbowl team that did not have a HOF TE?

The unicorn in today's roster is a multifaceted tight end. They can take the lid off of defenses better than any other skill spot.

Gronk
Kelce
Novacek

49ers of the 80's.
Steelers of the 70's

 

[rikberry31]

Those were some of my favorite Vol jerseys.

 

[Devo182]

Guys I would trade down for in this draft.
Roman Wilson
Jaylen Wright (if he truly falls to 3rd. Or I'd trade lower in the second to get him.)
Bowers (if I had a top 10 and saw he didn't immediately go)
Rattler if I needed a project QB. I think he has similar upside to Hooker.

Before anyone @'s me about Bowers and the lowered value of tight ends name me one dominant superbowl team that did not have a HOF TE?

The unicorn in today's roster is a multifaceted tight end. They can take the lid off of defenses better than any other skill spot.

Gronk
Kelce
Novacek

Are TEs values really lowering?

It seems the modern passcatching TEs are monsters in the league these days. And the Pats showed how a twin passcatching TE set could be near impossible to defend.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Coach Heup has mastered coach speak/saying the right thing and he's always uplifting.

It truly is a marvel how he can be that specific while not being that specific at all.

I think it's underrated just how smart he is. Just this whole conversation is just really interesting from a psychological level. The questions Pate asks and how Heup answers them.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Are TEs values really lowering?

It seems the modern passcatching TEs are monsters in the league these days. And the Pats showed how a twin passcatching TE set could be near impossible to defend.

Which is why it is absolutely insane that Bowers dropped to THIRTEENTH

NFL overthinking it once again.

 

[DD4ME]

49ers of the 80's.
Steelers of the 70's

Further solidifies the body type though imo.
Diverse tight ends are yesteryears fullbacks imo.

Czonka Bears
Franco Steelers
SF in 89&90 had Jones (TE) and Ratham (FB) go for over 1100 yards combined.

 

[DD4ME]

Which is why it is absolutely insane that Bowers dropped to THIRTEENTH

NFL overthinking it once again.

I think the narrative is the average TE is of lower value. Fantasy drafts bear this out. Those freak athlete tight ends are of elite value.

 

[Devo182]

Did you even go to gatlinburg if you didn’t check out the bmw?

True point.

 

[knoxvol52]

Further solidifies the body type though imo.
Diverse tight ends are yesteryears fullbacks imo.

Czonka
Franco
SF in 89&90 had Jones (TE) and Ratham (FB) go for over 1100 yards combined.

I despise the 49ers but Roger Craig was the Swiss Army Knife on football field.

Great runner, receiver and pass blocker in Bill Walsh's offense.