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hUTch2002 said:
San Fran County has less than 2,000 cases last I saw but, regardless of that fact, entire states shouldn't be held captive due to a large city in the state having a "high" number of cases. Then you have states like NV with a whopping 6K cases. Why can't they open up? Again, this isn't an economy vs lives discussion, it is lives vs lives. I think you get that but some don't.
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I agree with you. Outside big cities, smaller counties should be allowed to open. I am worried, though, about a big rebound of the virus.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
The NYC outbreak is not on Cuomo, or de Blasio.

But if you are looking for a smoking gun from a politician that absolutely caused deaths, look no further than Cuomo's retarded nursing home mandate and complete refusal to close public transportation.
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So you are saying it wasn’t a good idea to jam Covid patients in with the elderly folks in the nursing homes??

Or cancel buses so that fewer buses ran and made them fuller.

This was brilliant I tell you.
 
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Purple Tiger said:
I agree with you. Outside big cities, smaller counties should be allowed to open. I am worried, though, about a big rebound of the virus.
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Honestly, I don’t know what to believe. My gut tells me that there won’t be some massive wave of infections because I think it was here long before we started social distancing and shutting down. The problem is that we just don’t know. Those antibodies tests sure seem to support that theory but the media doesn’t seem to give them much thought and the same is true of our leaders.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Honestly, I don’t know what to believe. My gut tells me that there won’t be some massive wave of infections because I think it was here long before we started social distancing and shutting down. The problem is that we just don’t know. Those antibodies tests sure seem to support that theory but the media doesn’t seem to give them much thought and the same is true of our leaders.
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I’ve wondered if what we saw was really the second wave of the virus?
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Honestly, I don’t know what to believe. My gut tells me that there won’t be some massive wave of infections because I think it was here long before we started social distancing and shutting down. The problem is that we just don’t know. Those antibodies tests sure seem to support that theory but the media doesn’t seem to give them much thought and the same is true of our leaders.
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I think that’s a lot of the idea behind the hammer and the dance though. We applied the hammer and it’s done it’s job. In a lot of America active cases are very low. That means it isn’t just going to blow up overnight in those places (assuming things like warmer weather haven’t inhibited it’s ability to do that in the summer anyway). You should be able to open up and then monitor cases carefully. If you have a small outbreak, isolate those cases ASAP and monitor harder. That’s the game if you want to control it (and not just let her rip).

That’s why the timing of opening up is important though. If you still have a lot of active cases then there is a decent chance it grows very rapidly (again assuming warm weather doesn’t slow it down).

I don’t think the antibody tests alone tell you a lot about the case progression unfortunately. They give you an integral which is value - but don’t tell you much about the shape of the curve, which is what you need to know to effectively address the question of how fast does this take off if we fully open up at x number of cases in a city of y many people.
 
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TennTradition said:
I think that’s a lot of the idea behind the hammer and the dance though. We applied the hammer and it’s done it’s job. In a lot of America active cases are very low. That means it isn’t just going to blow up overnight in those places (assuming things like warmer weather haven’t inhibited it’s ability to do that in the summer anyway). You should be able to open up and then monitor cases carefully. If you have a small outbreak, isolate those cases ASAP and monitor harder. That’s the game if you want to control it (and not just let her rip).

That’s why the timing of opening up is important though. If you still have a lot of active cases then there is a decent chance it grows very rapidly (again assuming warm weather doesn’t slow it down).

I don’t think the antibody tests alone tell you a lot about the case progression unfortunately. They give you an integral which is value - but don’t tell you much about the shape of the curve, which is what you need to know to effectively address the question of how fast does this take off if we fully open up at x number of cases in a city of y many people.
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But if all these people had it and never knew then does it matter how fast it spreads?
 
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volfanjustin said:
Let them stay on lock down forever they deserve it
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Yeah, that will sure fix the economy. You people who wish ill-will on New York and California kill me. There is no difference between this stupid post, and a liberal cheering on the 14.7% unemployment rate. Conservatives like to think there is a difference and you are more mature, but it's the same politically divisive, red state vs blue state bull crap.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah, that will sure fix the economy. You people who wish ill-will on New York and California kill me. There is no difference between this stupid post, and a liberal cheering on the 14.7% unemployment rate. Conservatives like to think there is a difference and you are more mature, but it's the same politically divisive, red state vs blue state bull crap.
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Their Governors are the one's doing it. We have no control over their states.
You might want to log off Volnation and email them.
 
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TN Ribs said:
Semantics. The POTUS is a moron - it's that simple. And you look foolish and desperate trying to defend his comment.
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Not desperate to defend anything. I was asking if you could provide the quote. You can't, because that is not what he said. He rambled on and it was cringe worthy, I agree. He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut about that which he does not know. So go ahead and come clean and just say he never suggested people inject themselves, because he. did. not. We good? Good.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah, that will sure fix the economy. You people who wish ill-will on New York and California kill me. There is no difference between this stupid post, and a liberal cheering on the 14.7% unemployment rate. Conservatives like to think there is a difference and you are more mature, but it's the same politically divisive, red state vs blue state bull crap.
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They voted to be run by left wing anti American socialists so screw them, they deserve what pain comes their way
 
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utvolpj said:
That you made a nonsense post for cheap likes and now can't back it up.
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I tried to get you to explain so I didn't have to go with my original assumption but here you go...

I was trying to get you to breakdown why you are angry with "the government". What makes no sense is being unwilling to explain what you meant if I misunderstood you. If you're angry with Trump, say why. If you're angry with one or more governors, say why. That's all. I can't read every post you've ever made and I very well could have been wrong about what you meant.

The media wants everyone to forget about China's role. They don't report on it, do they? The evil Fox News does, but that's about it. Anytime it's brought up, the racism card is played. That should tell you something.

If you're more upset with Trump than with China, you might just be had. That's it. That's really it. It's not for cheap likes. We don't have to agree do we? This isn't r/politics.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Get ready for a lot of these.


Wisconsin Supreme Court rules Gov. Tony Evers' administration overstepped authority with stay-at-home extension
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I was just checking to see if anyone had posted this. This decision could turn out to be huge. I applaud them for their taking such a stance. I think there are some real constitutional issues here. I'm pleasantly surprised that a state court did this. I figured this sort of thing would have more luck in federal court.

I love this decision and it's time that someone sticks up for our constitutional rights
 
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Sea Ray said:
I was just checking to see if anyone had posted this. This decision could turn out to be huge. I applaud them for their taking such a stance. I think there are some real constitutional issues here. I'm pleasantly surprised that a state court did this. I figured this sort of thing would have more luck in federal court.

I love this decision and it's time that someone sticks up for our constitutional rights
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