Another Frat, Oh No

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What could possibly be going through someone's pee brain to make them say," hey! Let's go over there and spit on those veterans and then pull down our pants and piss on the American flag. And let's do it in public for all to see. What's the worst that could happen?"
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Disagree.

They could use some perspective.
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Perspective is telling them they aren't even worthy enough to clean out a bed pan over what they did.

Perspective is a judge telling them they aren't worthy enough to be around veterans.

And make them believe it.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Perspective is telling them they aren't even worthy enough to clean out a bed pan over what they did.

Perspective is a judge telling them they aren't worthy enough to be around veterans.

And make them believe it.
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You can't "make" a teenager or 20-something believe something without tangible context.

Perspective is making them visit double and triple amputees, around their same age, who served in the Middle East.

Perspective is making frat boys who feel they're untouchable see first hand the sacrifices other kids their age made for this country.

Simply telling a teenager or 20-something they're not worthy of something they don't completely understand accomplishes nothing.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
You can't "make" a teenager or 20-something believe something without tangible context.

Perspective is making them visit double and triple amputees, around their same age, who served in the Middle East.

Perspective is making frat boys who feel they're untouchable see first hand the sacrifices other kids their age made for this country.

Simply telling a teenager or 20-something they're not worthy of something they don't completely understand accomplishes nothing.
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Okay, you bring good points to the table.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
You can't "make" a teenager or 20-something believe something without tangible context.

Perspective is making them visit double and triple amputees, around their same age, who served in the Middle East.

Perspective is making frat boys who feel they're untouchable see first hand the sacrifices other kids their age made for this country.

Simply telling a teenager or 20-something they're not worthy of something they don't completely understand accomplishes nothing.
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Then send them to war. That'll do it.
 
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#40
Say goodbye to ZBT on UF's campus....

UF ZBT Chapter to Close

April 28, 2015
GAINESVILLE, Fla. --- The University of Florida chapter of Zeta Beta Tau will close in the wake of misconduct allegations following a recent weekend event in Panama City Beach, officials from the national organization and the University of Florida announced Tuesday. The closure is effective immediately.

The the organization is charged with a series of allegations of disturbing illegal behavior toward veterans while at an event in Panama City last weekend.

“I continue to be saddened and disappointed by the reported mistreatment and disrespect of our military veterans,” UF President Kent ***hs said. “Our university has always honored, and will always honor, the service of veterans. The reported conduct of this fraternity contradicts the values of service and respect that are at the center of this university."

ZBT Fraternity International President Matthew J. Rubins joined ***hs in expressing his dismay at the situation.

"We are absolutely disgusted by the accusations that have been made regarding the behavior of certain members of this chapter. ZBT has a long history of serving our country, with brothers currently serving in all ranks of the military,” Rubins said. “ZBT will work diligently to demonstrate that the alleged behavior of a few does not represent the values of the many."

The chapter is charged with causing physical or other harm, obscene behavior, public intoxication, theft and damage to property. An interim suspension means the organization is suspended from all activities. There will be a complete investigation by the university.

“I am personally offended and disappointed by the behavior that has been described to me,” said Student Affairs Vice President Dave Kratzer, also a retired U.S. Army major general and combat veteran. “This is not representative of our students or of the university.”

Panama City police responded to the incident and no charges were filed. UF policies establish standards of conduct for individuals and organizations, and officials are addressing the situation through appropriate channels. The fraternity was on probation at UF for hazing during the fall semester.
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