2024 NBA Season Thread aka The Zion High Deductible Healthcare Plan

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Jokic wins MVP. I wanna change my vote to Shai. Not just because of the status of the 2nd rd, but thinking it thru...

Shai is a borderline all defensive player, and a top 5 weapon on offense. Probably the greatest youngest team ever and he's the guy that weathered the storm of the tanking years and came out the other side way ahead of schedule with a winner's game, mentality, and culture. They got the 1 seed in a bitch of a west. Sure, they are talented but they are so young and it's not the ideal construction around him. He doesn't even have a lob threat rim runner to spam PnR with and the other lead ballhandler can't shoot.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Jokic wins MVP. I wanna change my vote to Shai. Not just because of the status of the 2nd rd, but thinking it thru...

Shai is a borderline all defensive player, and a top 5 weapon on offense. Probably the greatest youngest team ever and he's the guy that weathered the storm of the tanking years and came out the other side way ahead of schedule with a winner's game, mentality, and culture. They got the 1 seed in a bitch of a west. Sure, they are talented but they are so young and it's not the ideal construction around him. He doesn't even have a lob threat rim runner to spam PnR with and the other lead ballhandler can't shoot.
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n_huffhines said:
Jokic wins MVP. I wanna change my vote to Shai. Not just because of the status of the 2nd rd, but thinking it thru...

Shai is a borderline all defensive player, and a top 5 weapon on offense. Probably the greatest youngest team ever and he's the guy that weathered the storm of the tanking years and came out the other side way ahead of schedule with a winner's game, mentality, and culture. They got the 1 seed in a bitch of a west. Sure, they are talented but they are so young and it's not the ideal construction around him. He doesn't even have a lob threat rim runner to spam PnR with and the other lead ballhandler can't shoot.
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I think that this year had three strong arguments for Jokic, Luka and SGA. My “vote” would be Jokic but the other two arguments were very compelling.
 
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Pacers had 29 complaints in game 1 and decided against filing and ended up with 49 calls they didn't like in game 2. 😄

The media and fans always make fun of teams that file these complaints because we believe the league doesn't do anything amd it's a waste of time but maybe it does get you a friendlier whistle in game 3.
 
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zjcvols said:
I think that this year had three strong arguments for Jokic, Luka and SGA. My “vote” would be Jokic but the other two arguments were very compelling.
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Giannis was right there too, but for the same reason I give Shai credit for team building, Giannis takes some blame for the Bucks' demise, even tho he was a mad man on the court working to salvage it. 30 and 11 at 60% is a record, and then you add the D.

Heavy hitters at the top of this league
 
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knoxvol52 said:
👆 Like I said NBA wants Knicks vs Celtics ECF. The fix is in.
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It's nothing like the old days when we knew the fix was in, like when the Lakers got saved by 27 free throws in the fourth quarter Game 6 versus the Kings in 2002.

But this is just some weird petty stuff as the Knicks are going to win the series either way IMO. (Pacers D isn't good enough in the clutch.) Refs corrected a bad call at the end in the Knicks favor, for example, but when a similar phantom call happened in the previous game and they knew they were wrong . . . "Sorry, not reviewable!" That broke Rick Carlisle's mind right there 😂.
 
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Rifleman said:
It's nothing like the old days when we knew the fix was in, like when the Lakers got saved by 27 free throws in the fourth quarter Game 6 versus the Kings in 2002.

But this is just some weird petty stuff as the Knicks are going to win the series either way IMO. (Pacers D isn't good enough in the clutch.) Refs corrected a bad call at the end in the Knicks favor, for example, but when a similar phantom call happened in the previous game and they knew they were wrong . . . "Sorry, not reviewable!" That broke Rick Carlisle's mind right there 😂.
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You're probably correct, It's just my disdain for all New York teams.🤪

Put the Knicks, Nets, Giants, Jets, Mets and Yankees in one spot and hope for that meteor to hit. Add the Rangers and Islanders to the mix as well.
 
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The Knicks making the third round of the Playoffs is looking favorable.

Also is the season that the Timberwolves finally reach the NBA Finals.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
Boston laying a egg tonight.
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Celtics have a historic, insanely bad home court record over the last few years. Yet, they've been able to win road games. Usually teams that can win above 50% on the road are hanging banners and teams that lose at home this much don't advance to lose even more at home.

In Playoffs:
Steph Curry road wins = 57%
Jayson Tatum road wins = 56% (road record is elite, so it's hard to write Tatum off as over-rated)

but . . .

Steph Curry home wins = 77%
Jayson Tatum home wins (30 - 23) = 57% (and this has been even worse recently)

It is a known tendency at this point, so it looks like road teams are juiced and comfortable while the Celtics play tight and low energy.

My guess: it's a head problem, not a talent problem. For Tatum, losing a home game doesn't burn him up the way it would the top tier:

Lebron 111 - 35 at home
Jordan 75 - 19
Duncan 94 - 34
Kobe 88 - 24
Magic 81 - 24
Bird 70 - 20

and even:

Danny Ainge 81 - 25 (dude hated losing at home)
 
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Rifleman said:
Celtics have a historic, insanely bad home court record over the last few years. Yet, they've been able to win road games. Usually teams that can win above 50% on the road are hanging banners and teams that lose at home this much don't advance to lose even more at home.

In Playoffs:
Steph Curry road wins = 57%
Jayson Tatum road wins = 56% (road record is elite, so it's hard to write Tatum off as over-rated)

but . . .

Steph Curry home wins = 77%
Jayson Tatum home wins (30 - 23) = 57% (and this has been even worse recently)

It is a known tendency at this point, so it looks like road teams are juiced and comfortable while the Celtics play tight and low energy.

My guess: it's a head problem, not a talent problem. For Tatum, losing a home game doesn't burn him up the way it would the top tier:

Lebron 111 - 35 at home
Jordan 75 - 19
Duncan 94 - 34
Kobe 88 - 24
Magic 81 - 24
Bird 70 - 20

and even:

Danny Ainge 81 - 25 (dude hated losing at home)
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Both games last night, just chalk them up to 3p shooting.

Home court isn't the same advantage it used to be because of 3p variance.
 
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