2018 Midterm Election Thread

[luthervol]

Do you try to minimize your taxes?

This is a critique of the the tax laws - what have Dems done to reform tax law?

I expect to pay my fair share, do you not?

 

[Mick]

I expect to pay my fair share, do you not?

He STFU pretty quick. Me bham. But Dems. Grunt.

 

[tumscalcium]

I expect to pay my fair share, do you not?

So...... you take no deductions? You also elect to pay more than you need?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I expect to pay my fair share, do you not?

I do. And I take every available deduction allowed to me by law. Is that not fair?

 

[luthervol]

I do. And I take every available deduction allowed to me by law. Is that not fair?

I think if I made millions and paid zero I would probably conclude I was paying less than my fair share.

 

[tumscalcium]

I think if I made millions and paid zero I would probably conclude I was paying less than my fair share.

What’s a fair share?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I think if I made millions and paid zero I would probably conclude I was paying less than my fair share.

What if you are well within the law?

 

[GAVol]

What’s a fair share?

Depends on whose money there talking about.

 

[GAVol]

What if you are well within the law?

There's the rub. They are attempting to create an immorality based on something lawful. It'll never work.

 

[luthervol]

I do. And I take every available deduction allowed to me by law. Is that not fair?

If the laws are fair, sure. If a wealthy person can legally pay zero, then obviously the laws aren't fair. Trump's tax system makes the laws less fair.
Trump's philosophy....give the masses a little cut and they will not blink an eye at the true cuts being made for the one percenters, national debt be damned.

 

[Orange_Crush]

So who paid zero taxes, and how do we know they paid zero taxes?

 

[luthervol]

What’s a fair share?

That's the great debate. I obviously think the wealthier you are, the more you should pay.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

If the laws are fair, sure. If a wealthy person can legally pay zero, then obviously the laws aren't fair. Trump's tax system makes the laws less fair.
Trump's philosophy....give the masses a little cut and they will not blink an eye at the true cuts being made for the one percenters, national debt be damned.

You are making a value judgement based on your liberal bias. It is what YOU determine to be 'fair'. And you move the goal posts to boot. So let's get down to it. How about a flat tax? Everybody pays the same percentage?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That's the great debate. I obviously think the wealthier you are, the more you should pay.

Why? And guess what. Wealthy people DO pay more. I guarantee you that Warren's check is bigger than mine.

 

[volfanhill]

That's the great debate. I obviously think the wealthier you are, the more you should pay.

If it was a flat percent, based on income, then the wealthy would pay more

 

[luthervol]

I assume this will play well with Trump's "forgotten man"

Kushner Likely Paid No Federal Income Taxes for Years, Documents Show

So who paid zero taxes, and how do we know they paid zero taxes?

Kushner

 

[volfanhill]

Why? And guess what. Wealthy people DO pay more. I guarantee you that Warren's check is bigger than mine.

The left struggles with math and get stuck on percent.

 

[Orange_Crush]

That's the great debate. I obviously think the wealthier you are, the more you should pay.

Just to play devil's advocate, can you defend the position that, there more you have, the more you should be responsible to pay? It's such a common claim, i think people just take it for granted without testing it for validity.

If you and I lived in a neighborhood that shared services, you'd have a hard time justifying ones household paying most of the social services for the neighborhood just because they are more well to do financially.

I'm game. Show rationally why it's more "fair" to have the wealthy pay more for society. That means no appeals to emotion.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Personally I think if you ad MORE burden on society, you should pay more, not less. How about that one luther?

 

[luthervol]

Just to play devil's advocate, can you defend the position that, there more you have, the more you should be responsible to pay? It's such a common claim, i think people just take it for granted without testing it for validity.

If you and I lived in a neighborhood that shared services, you'd have a hard time justifying ones household paying most of the social services for the neighborhood just because they are more well to do financially.

I'm game. Show rationally why it's more "fair" to have the wealthy pay more for society. That means no appeals to emotion.

If your lot had more street footage, then it would cost more to service your property than mine.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Kushner

You didn't answer the second question.

 

[Mick]

Personally I think if you ad MORE burden on society, you should pay more, not less. How about that one luther?

Two d's in add, oh enlightened one.

 

[luthervol]

Personally I think if you ad MORE burden on society, you should pay more, not less. How about that one luther?

I think all death row inmates should be in the 80% bracket.

 

[Orange_Crush]

If your lot had more street footage, then it would cost more to service your property than mine.

So, you don't want to answer?

 

[luthervol]

You didn't answer the second question.

I don't know. I didn't even read the article.