Official Jon Gruden Thread XV

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It's amazing you can type and breathe at the same time.

I'm not answering any of your questions because 1. I don't owe you anything and 2. You are clueless and I have to spell everything out to you so you might possibly understand it. Everyone else had no problem with my original post. Yet, you couldn't grasp the two sentences.

so....?
 
Big East Coaches who jump to another power conference (Last 10 Years)

Coach A:
Last 3 Years in the Big East
11-1
11-2
10-2
First 3 Years in the (former) Big 10
3-9
5-7
7-6
Fired!

Coach B:
Last 3 Years in Big East
9-3
9-3
9-3
First 3 Years in ACC
5-7
6-7
5-7

Coach C:
Last 3 Years in Big East
8-5
8-5
8-5
First 2 Years in ACC
2-10
4-8
2013 Season will be third year

Coach D:
Last 3 Years in Big East
12-0
12-1
11-2
First 3 Years in ACC
9-3
9-3
7-6
Fired

Coach E:
Big East Last 3 Years
10-3
11-3
12-0
FBS Independent First 3 Years
8-5
8-5
12-0

Charlie Strong
Last 3 Years in Big East?
7-6
7-6
10-2

Only one of these coaches has worked out. NO CHARLIE STRONG
 
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I was told self quoting and bumping was not cool. I personally see nothing wrong with it.

Thanks. I just thought it easier than retyping similar sentiments. Didn't know it was against protocol. I shall refrain in the future.
 
I will say this - no part of me doubts that people close to the real coaching situation know about these forums. I'm not saying they actively contribute or give two ultimate damns about what we propose on here - that's the nature of the beast in sports, but they're not oblivious we exist.

I contribute to a Titans site where numerous players and high-profile analysts have admitted to viewing on a somewhat regular basis. The same can only be assumed here.

From a business perspective, purely money-driven, how do you NOT pull the trigger on going after Gruden, at pretty much any cost if he really does entertain coming? Merchandise sales would skyrocket, as would season tickets, as would advertisements through the major networks. Surely, in the chance that this doesn't go down, multiple people with high involvement will look back on this as not only a blown-venture in regards to hiring someone to bring relevance back to our program, but also a missed business opportunity that would've been one of the safest investments since buying into Apple in the late 90's.

You don't.

Is it possible that the thing everybody was waiting on was for Fulmer to have his night before one of the biggest splash hires in the history of college football? But, that doesn't explain why went got so far down the line with Strong and/or Gundy.
 
Big East Coaches who jump to another power conference (Last 10 Years)

Coach A:
Last 3 Years in the Big East
11-1
11-2
10-2
First 3 Years in the (former) Big 10
3-9
5-7
7-6
Fired!

Coach B:
Last 3 Years in Big East
9-3
9-3
9-3
First 3 Years in ACC
5-7
6-7
5-7

Coach C:
Last 3 Years in Big East
8-5
8-5
8-5
First 2 Years in ACC
2-10
4-8
2013 Season will be third year

Coach D:
Last 3 Years in Big East
12-0
12-1
11-2
First 3 Years in ACC
9-3
9-3
7-6
Fired

Coach E:
Big East Last 3 Years
10-3
11-3
12-0
FBS Independent First 3 Years
8-5
8-5
12-0

Charlie Strong
Last 3 Years in Big East?
7-6
7-6
10-2

Only one of these coaches has worked out. NO CHARLIE STRONG
I'm guessing, just guessing, Coach E is playing for the national title, just a guess though.
 
Sounds like a pretty decent theory to me.

Believe it or not...this makes some sense to me. Not saying so bc im speculating. Because the little bit of info I got this weekend when I asked what happened, the answer was basically paraphrased, "That's the thing. Nothing happened. That Hart is one tough cookie." I've thought about that long and hard. Didn't understand it. There was a little more and I suspected it meant that he wouldn't budge, meaning in some way Hart got in the way. But...

Could it be? Just covering the bases. Maybe he put Gruden to the test? Hmmm
 
You know, you guys are maybe the worst thing to happen to me. It's finals week and this thread is going to be the death of my gpa.

Your GPA won't mean crap unless your going to graduate school anyway, just go ahead and accept you'll be going to a technical school soon to find a job anyway... :p
 
orangeslice13 (15,428)
09:39 PM Today ( Report! )
Originally Posted by volsforever27:
Slice, you can either e-mail me, tell Tex, or just say it on here... if it's up to Gruden, have they said when he might make a decision? I know who your one source is, so that makes me feel a little better.
I've been lead to believe that a final decision will be in tomorrow.
If it's Gru there won't be an announcement for a while. If he said no plan B could be announced as early as tomorrow. Likely Thursday.
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You got that from the zone haha idiot. That entire thread is tongue-in-cheek. Nice try hero.
 
Believe it or not...this makes some sense to me. Not saying so bc im speculating. Because the little bit of info I got this weekend when I asked what happened, the answer was basically paraphrased, "That's the thing. Nothing happened. That Hart is one tough cookie." I've thought about that long and hard. Didn't understand it. There was a little more and I suspected it meant that he wouldn't budge, meaning in some way Hart got in the way. But...

Could it be? Just covering the bases. Maybe he put Gruden to the test? Hmmm

No way Red Wolfe challanged Mustafa, not unless he wants to be neutered. I mean...err.... crap can't remember when to use code
 
Big East Coaches who jump to another power conference (Last 10 Years)

Coach A:
Last 3 Years in the Big East
11-1
11-2
10-2
First 3 Years in the (former) Big 10
3-9
5-7
7-6
Fired!

Coach B:
Last 3 Years in Big East
9-3
9-3
9-3
First 3 Years in ACC
5-7
6-7
5-7

Coach C:
Last 3 Years in Big East
8-5
8-5
8-5
First 2 Years in ACC
2-10
4-8
2013 Season will be third year

Coach D:
Last 3 Years in Big East
12-0
12-1
11-2
First 3 Years in ACC
9-3
9-3
7-6
Fired

Coach E:
Big East Last 3 Years
10-3
11-3
12-0
FBS Independent First 3 Years
8-5
8-5
12-0

Charlie Strong
Last 3 Years in Big East?
7-6
7-6
10-2

Only one of these coaches has worked out. NO CHARLIE STRONG

Glad to see someone using their brain... A Strong hire makes no sense.
 
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