madbamahater
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Performed as highly as they've been ranked in recruiting like the competition has?
Can you provide proof that the competition has performed as "highly as they've been ranked" in recruiting? And don't merely cherry pick Alabama and provide one example.
If real facts are presented, I think we will find that the Top 10 in recruiting is not exactly the same as the Final Top 10. As somebody else posted above, strength of schedule plays heavily into it.
I'd say UT has consistently out recruited Vandy.Can you provide proof that the competition has performed as "highly as they've been ranked" in recruiting? And don't merely cherry pick Alabama and provide one example.
If real facts are presented, I think we will find that the Top 10 in recruiting is not exactly the same as the Final Top 10. As somebody else posted above, strength of schedule plays heavily into it.
That's hilarious. Maybe the seniority you speak of is knowledge of the game and system along with strength and conditioning. Leadership developed through relayionships after a few tough battles together.
But I'm sure it's because Butch is trying to sabatoge the program. That makes way more sense.
I just am always baffled and how many people want kids to stick in school and play four years but then we say they don't deserve to play when they stay.
One of the problems is UT usually plays a few teams ranked above them. While UT's recruiting has been good, look at where it ranks in the SEC.
Here at UT, we don't play players according to talent. We play players according to seniority or if we are trying make a point! - per Butch Jones
So, unless recruits stay long term or a position comes open, this is an unfair question.
Yeah I know right? Look at Kelly and Kamara as one example.
I smell sarcasm. Just a thought experiment: Butch Jones benches Hurd BEFORE he quit on the team and says Kelley is a better fit and has shown tremendous prkgress in practice.
Result: Volnation melts down.
So there are anecdotes on both sides. It wasn't that long ago before a roster of Butchs recruits where we whined that all these freshmen are starting because we cant develop talent. Now we start seniors and upper classman and Butch is ignoring talent.
My long winded point: Butch has every reason to play the best players and NO reason not to.
Can you provide proof that the competition has performed as "highly as they've been ranked" in recruiting? And don't merely cherry pick Alabama and provide one example.
If real facts are presented, I think we will find that the Top 10 in recruiting is not exactly the same as the Final Top 10. As somebody else posted above, strength of schedule plays heavily into it.
1. Clemson- 2016 recruiting ranking #8
2. Alabama- #1
3. USC- #7
4. Washington- #37
5. Oklahoma-#22
6. Ohio State- #4
7. Penn State-#20
8. Florida State- #2
9. Wisconsin- #29
10. Michigan- #5
So, 6 out of the top final Top 10 teams in the country last year had a top 10 recruiting class in 2016. Looking at the teams, I'm certain if you looked back 2-3 years further, you'd find more of the same.
1. Clemson- 2016 recruiting ranking #8
2. Alabama- #1
3. USC- #7
4. Washington- #37
5. Oklahoma-#22
6. Ohio State- #4
7. Penn State-#20
8. Florida State- #2
9. Wisconsin- #29
10. Michigan- #5
So, 6 out of the top final Top 10 teams in the country last year had a top 10 recruiting class in 2016. Looking at the teams, I'm certain if you looked back 2-3 years further, you'd find more of the same.
Moral of the story: Coaching matters
One of the problems is UT usually plays a few teams ranked above them. While UT's recruiting has been good, look at where it ranks in the SEC.
Let's imagine that we are # 5 in recruiting but the teams ahead of us are Alabama, Florida, Georgia and Texas, then 3 of our opponents are ahead of us in recruiting. Not good.
We have to out recruit other teams. We have to out perform other teams on the field and we have to out scheme other teams on the field. Then we can win.
The guys question was "does factoring in strength of schedule play a part"
Obviously this list didn't cover anything about that.
We know Bama has a strong sos.
I believe Michigan played PSU and OSU, lost 1 of those. The rest of their schedule was teams that our fans complain about playing because they're "slow, middle-of-the-pack b1g teams".
So no clear answer using just those 2. Have to look up the rest.
Side question though: would our fans complain about playing those teams if we ended ranked 10th?