You have got to be kidding me....

#9
#9
I'm on the minority side of this. The girl didn't go into the game to be rubbed on (virtually). I don't see this as physical, it's more along the lines of verbal assault. The game should provide a means to moderate, report, block, and/or ban users who attack others.

I get why "sexual assault" in a VR world sounds ludicrous, but at the same time, how many people have blocked someone they are offended by on this very board? Or had their posts deleted because they were deemed inappropriate? If D4H annoys you, you have the option to report or block him.

The girl didn't like what was being done or said to her, so her only option of escape was to quit the game. Why should she be forced to quit playing a game she enjoys (and paid for) because someone won't leave her alone?
 
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I don't understand laughing at this.

This is much different from "stare rape" or those other arguments I've heard. This is a legitimate unwanted sexual action. A player harasses another sexually, and even touches them in the VR. Super creepy. The game needs to provide an avenue for reporting or making these incidents not happen. Basically what PoTs said. It's definitely an issue that needs to be addressed.
 
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PotS said:
I'm on the minority side of this. The girl didn't go into the game to be rubbed on (virtually). I don't see this as physical, it's more along the lines of verbal assault. The game should provide a means to moderate, report, block, and/or ban users who attack others.

I get why "sexual assault" in a VR world sounds ludicrous, but at the same time, how many people have blocked someone they are offended by on this very board? Or had their posts deleted because they were deemed inappropriate? If D4H annoys you, you have the option to report or block him.

The girl didn't like what was being done or said to her, so her only option of escape was to quit the game. Why should she be forced to quit playing a game she enjoys (and paid for) because someone won't leave her alone?
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I agree
 
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LittleCat said:
I don't understand laughing at this.

This is much different from "stare rape" or those other arguments I've heard. This is a legitimate unwanted sexual action. A player harasses another sexually, and even touches them in the VR. Super creepy. The game needs to provide an avenue for reporting or making these incidents not happen. Basically what PoTs said. It's definitely an issue that needs to be addressed.
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It's dumb and creepy, but criminal? This woman just wants her 5 minutes of fame. It's ridiculous to claim you were sexual assaulted in a video game. That's Jmo and might not be popular, but this is just a "look at me" moment. Our society is so ****ed up now, we have people who legitimately are sexual offenders and we also have people that are offended or scream assault over a damn video game.
 
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I don't understand, just turn off the game. It's like cyber bullying, you just gotta step away from the computer
 
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BearCat204 said:
I'm with you here..... However, it doesn't absolve the "offenders" from being stupid..... But sexual assault?
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I agree that it's definitely more sexual harassment than assault.

You have a military background, if I remember correctly. Surely you've taken the SAPR training =)

And while this does stink of attention mongering, the developers of the game responded and have immediately begun implementing a solution to allow users to protect themselves against unwanted interactions.
 
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PotS said:
I agree that it's definitely more sexual harassment than assault.

You have a military background, if I remember correctly. Surely you've taken the SAPR training =)

And while this does stink of attention mongering, the developers of the game responded and have immediately begun implementing a solution to allow users to protect themselves against unwanted interactions.
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It's called SHARP and I have to still take it yearly as a Government employee.
 
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#17
While I agree some females get on Twitch and show off their cleavage for attention, it's still frustrating that many, who just want to play a game they paid for, are harassed like this. They shouldn't have to shut the game off or pretend to be a dude. There are two women I've played COD with since MW2 who have been constantly harassed online (verbal sexist abuse, constant messages and friend requests, etc.). They are both way better than most COD players. They've either quit playing or have changed their gamertags to non-female names. I've been teabagged a thousand times, but that's also not something I've ever had to deal with irl, as men aren't often subject to sexual harassment, at least not on the level of women.
 
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BearCat204 said:
It's dumb and creepy, but criminal? This woman just wants her 5 minutes of fame. It's ridiculous to claim you were sexual assaulted in a video game. That's Jmo and might not be popular, but this is just a "look at me" moment. Our society is so ****ed up now, we have people who legitimately are sexual offenders and we also have people that are offended or scream assault over a damn video game.
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A shrink might say the person (male or female) doing the VR sexual assault-because that's exactually what it is- is already mostly past any inhibitions preventing them from doing real world violent rape. How many separate VR assaults can be done in one in night of game play? A serial rapist could be honing skills. I don't see this as something to scoff at at all.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
A shrink might say the person (male or female) doing the VR sexual assault-because that's exactually what it is- is already mostly past any inhibitions preventing them from doing real world violent rape. How many separate VR assaults can be done in one in night of game play? A serial rapist could be honing skills. I don't see this as something to scoff at at all.
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Or more than likely, dumb young adults a kids being stupid. Your serial rapist angle is like blaming real world violence on games like GTA. Also, I just don't get the "I'm being sexual assaulted" because if makes me feel violated in a game where you are getting virtually shot in the face. Funny how people can separate that feeling of actually being shot but can't for "sexual assault".
 
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BearCat204 said:
Or more than likely, dumb young adults a kids being stupid. Your serial rapist angle is like blaming real world violence on games like GTA. Also, I just don't get the "I'm being sexual assaulted" because if makes me feel violated in a game where you are getting virtually shot in the face. Funny how people can separate that feeling of actually being shot but can't for "sexual assault".
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Yeah, true, except you are playing the game expecting to be shot in the face. She didn't turn the game on and think "Alright, I hope I get harassed today!"
 
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PotS said:
Yeah, true, except you are playing the game expecting to be shot in the face. She didn't turn the game on and think "Alright, I hope I get harassed today!"
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I get what you are saying, but still don't agree with it.
 
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Also, I want to be clear, even though the victim here is claiming she was sexually assaulted, she was not assaulted by definition. She was harassed. There is a small gray area on whether VR contact is physical or not, but I'm of the belief that even in a VR world, while character-to-character contact may exist, it is still not physical contact.

I think the media using the "assault" term is strong-arm tactic to garner attention.

BC will recognize this from his SHARP training, and it's also from the Navy's SAPR and POSH training.

(Reference - the DoD definition for sexual assault and other sex-related offenses for all training and education purposes)

What is the difference between sexual assault and sexual harassment?
Sexual assault and sexual harassment are not the same, although they are related to each other.

Sexual harassment is a form of gender discrimination that involves unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature.

Sexual assault refers specifically to rape, forcible sodomy (oral or anal sex), and other unwanted sexual contact that is aggravated, abusive, or wrongful (including unwanted and inappropriate sexual contact) or attempts to commits these acts.

Sexual assault must involve physical contact. While sexual harassment can involve physical contact, it can also refer to verbal or other forms of gender discrimination of a sexual nature.
 
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I think we're approaching the border to the politics forum, btw =)
 
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