WR corps

[Liper]

I get what you are saying. Speed is a great thing to have as you run the route in the wrong direction, or two yards to deep, or force a delay of game because you are lined up incorrectly. Those types of things would be bad except that at least those fast WR's can make those mistakes WITH SPEED. Thank goodness.

Not the point at all. It's about our staff be able to teach our players what they are supposed to do to execute the offense. But sense we apparently have the most complex offense on the planet, our players don't understand it until they're about to graduate.

 

[Mullet]

One thing that bothers me is that we ONLY put O'Neal and the other speedsters into the game when we're clearly going to run some kind of trick play. Like somebody mentioned before, at least give those guys an OPPORTUNITY to make a play rather than setting them up for failure. Everyone in the entire stadium knew vs. Florida that Brent Vinson was only in the game on that reverse because we were going to give the ball to him. If the idiot, drunk fans know what's going to happen how can the defense be licking their chops (like they did on that play)?

I'm not really one to question playcalling because that's ridiculous. If an off tackle goes for -2 yards on 3rd and 7 people say it was a terrible call, but if Coker takes it 50 yards down the sidelines it was a gutsy call. I get that. My point is, if you only put these so called "play makers" into the game for particular "trick play" situations then literally everyone in the stands could tell you (drunk people, et al) who the ball is going to. At the end of the day TN football is just a game and I can walk away from it on an emotional level, but during the game it's hard to.

 

[therickbol]

Not the point at all. It's about our staff be able to teach our players what they are supposed to do to execute the offense. But sense we apparently have the most complex offense on the planet, our players don't understand it until they're about to graduate.

So when the coaches tell O'Neal that he is suppose to run a 7 yard out pattern and he runs the route 9 yards instead that is the coaches fault? I coach high school basketball and trust me sometimes the coach tells the player what he is suppose to do and the coach might as well be beating his head against a rock. I think that is some of the case here with O'Neal. He can't adjust his route based on the coverage. He has been told what adjustments to make versus certain coverages but he can't process that analysis on his own.

 

[volfanbill]

So when the coaches tell O'Neal that he is suppose to run a 7 yard out pattern and he runs the route 9 yards instead that is the coaches fault? I coach high school basketball and trust me sometimes the coach tells the player what he is suppose to do and the coach might as well be beating his head against a rock. I think that is some of the case here with O'Neal. He can't adjust his route based on the coverage. He has been told what adjustments to make versus certain coverages but he can't process that analysis on his own.

that's stuff they should be able to pick up early on, during recruiting visits and what not. If the coaches are continuing to run offensive schemes that our players can't pick up it's also their fault. O'neal isn't the first player to not be able to pick up our offense.

 

[therickbol]

One thing that bothers me is that we ONLY put O'Neal and the other speedsters into the game when we're clearly going to run some kind of trick play. Like somebody mentioned before, at least give those guys an OPPORTUNITY to make a play rather than setting them up for failure. Everyone in the entire stadium knew vs. Florida that Brent Vinson was only in the game on that reverse because we were going to give the ball to him. If the idiot, drunk fans know what's going to happen how can the defense be licking their chops (like they did on that play)?

I'm not really one to question playcalling because that's ridiculous. If an off tackle goes for -2 yards on 3rd and 7 people say it was a terrible call, but if Coker takes it 50 yards down the sidelines it was a gutsy call. I get that. My point is, if you only put these so called "play makers" into the game for particular "trick play" situations then literally everyone in the stands could tell you (drunk people, et al) who the ball is going to. At the end of the day TN football is just a game and I can walk away from it on an emotional level, but during the game it's hard to.

I agree with you somewhat. But, they are on the field for more than just that one trick play. We only notice them being on the field when we run the trick play because the other plays they are on the field they are not getting the ball thrown to them so we dont notice. But yes, our lack of success on trick plays is very disturbing.

 

[therickbol]

that's stuff they should be able to pick up early on, during recruiting visits and what not. If the coaches are continuing to run offensive schemes that our players can't pick up it's also their fault. O'neil isn't the first player to not be able to pick up our offense.

Well, I dont think you get it. Continuing to run our offensive scheme? We aren't really even talking about the deep interworkings of our offense. If the play call is for a certain route and the defense is in a coverage that is going to defend that particular route very well then do you want the WR to still run that route? There are checks that the WR goes to based on the type of coverage, the depth of coverage, etc. That is where we are talking about the problems coming up. O'Neal has to be able to make that analysis on his own when he is on the field. So if we pick up on a recruiting visit that a tremendous athlete like O'Neal is not the brightest crayon in the box then we should just ditch any effort to work with him and hopefully take a chance on his mind developing to meet his talent level?