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[hndog609]

it probably should be at this rate. they draw hate because they don't do anything to improve our nation, or solve our problems.

1-5 years in prison, some community service, and the like, seems like it would be more than enough to dissuade this without being ridiculous. and that would still be harsher than the punishment for spitting on a member of the general public.

if its actual assault, i would get it. but this is essentially "they were mean to me in public".

Well as stated the idea isn't all that new. Think about it...put together what you personally think would be the best politician you could imagine. I'm talking your personal political Golden Child. Now tell me there wouldn't be lots and lots of haters of that person's stances. Of course there would be...it's literally unavoidable.

I think it's key that the statute in question (18 U.S. Code § 111) may "allow" for a 20y sentence that in no way means that's really on the table regarding this particular incident. I think it MUCH more likely it goes down along the lines you posited.

 

[jmacvols1]

20 years in prison, and millions in fines for spitting on someone? Does she have aids or some other communicable disease?

doesn't sound like justice to me. sounds like the system protecting the system. must be nice to be part of the protected class, better than the rest of us.

depends on the type of assault she will be charged with...

from GROK:

Under 18 U.S. Code § 111, the penalties for assaulting, resisting, or impeding a federal official vary depending on the severity of the offense:

1. Simple Assault: If the act involves only assault (no physical contact or minor contact), the penalty is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to 1 year in prison, a fine, or both.
2. Assault with Physical Contact or Intent to Commit a Felony: If the assault involves physical contact, intimidation with a weapon, or intent to commit another felony, it is a felony, punishable by up to 8 years in prison, a fine, or both.
3. Assault Causing Bodily Injury or Using a Deadly/Dangerous Weapon: If the assault results in bodily injury or involves the use of a deadly or dangerous weapon, or if it constitutes an attempt to murder, the penalty is a felony, punishable by up to 20 years in prison, a fine, or both.

Additional notes:

• The law applies to federal officers or employees engaged in official duties, including members of Congress, judges, and law enforcement officers.
• Penalties may be influenced by factors like the extent of injury, the type of weapon used, or prior criminal history.
• For precise application, consult the full text of 18 U.S.C. § 111 or a legal professional, as case-specific details matter.

 

[LouderVol]

Well as stated the idea isn't all that new. Think about it...put together what you personally think would be the best politician you could imagine. I'm talking your personal political Golden Child. Now tell me there wouldn't be lots and lots of haters of that person's stances. Of course there would be...it's literally unavoidable.

I think it's key that the statute in question (18 U.S. Code § 111) may "allow" for a 20y sentence that in no way means that's really on the table regarding this particular incident. I think it MUCH more likely it goes down along the lines you posited.

I still don't consider it justice for there to be such a heavy potential out there. sounds like the plea deal bs, where the AG will over charge you, offer you a plea "down", if you just confess, and you take the 5 year punishment instead of risking 30 years.

 

[hndog609]

I still don't consider it justice for there to be such a heavy potential out there. sounds like the plea deal bs, where the AG will over charge you, offer you a plea "down", if you just confess, and you take the 5 year punishment instead of risking 30 years.

See jmacvols1 post. I think it almost smacks of sensationalism to throw out the max penalty being faced when there's, near as makes no difference, 0 chance of that actually happening. It's technically true if just throwing out the statute but in this case? C'mon.

 

[LouderVol]

See jmacvols1 post. I think it almost smacks of sensationalism to throw out the max penalty being faced when there's, near as makes no difference, 0 chance of that actually happening. It's technically true if just throwing out the statute but in this case? C'mon.

Like I said, it seems like a great way to coerce someone. you know its not going to be the max, the defendant knows it probably won't be the max, but can they risk it? especially if the government comes around offering them a "deal".

 

[hndog609]

Like I said, it seems like a great way to coerce someone. you know its not going to be the max, the defendant knows it probably won't be the max, but can they risk it? especially if the government comes around offering them a "deal".

I understand (and don't dismiss) your concerns but I think you're using too much club. At it's core any statute like this must have a high end and low end of sentencing as it's an absolute given that "assault" covers a LOT of different circumstances. I can't imagine you'd want any part of a "one size fits all" punishment schedule.

Also you saw the statute being laid out earlier? Don't you think (at least as I currently understand the case) this incident will most likely fall under this category?

Simple Assault: If the act involves only assault (no physical contact or minor contact), the penalty is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to 1 year in prison, a fine, or both.

If so the max is a year in prison and it likely won't even be that when it's all said and done. Even leveled up (which seems extremely unlikely unless more comes out about the case) you're only looking at 8 years and, again, that's only if sentenced as such. That's why it looks like sensationalism to me to have ever even brought up the 20 year thing in this case.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

LMAO ..... Nobody is gonna watch Raskin to come up next on their lousy show of lies.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I still don't consider it justice for there to be such a heavy potential out there. sounds like the plea deal bs, where the AG will over charge you, offer you a plea "down", if you just confess, and you take the 5 year punishment instead of risking 30 years.

I agree that 20 years is ridiculous, she will never come close to that. I will be surprised if she spends even 1 year in a cage with a long probation being likely.

That said, the same government that made every gas station, grocery store etc tape X marks on the floor 6 feet apart and mandated the crazy 6ft of space so masked people couldn't breathe on other masked people cannot then tell the same public that to actually spit their bacteria filled slobber directly on someone is "no big deal". She could easily have Hep C, or HIV, or some other communicable disease and when she spit her saliva on someone else, she absolutely assaulted them. Many would say she both assaulted and battered that official because there was physical contact between part of her body (her spit) and him...contact which she initiated against his will while attacking him.

I am not trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. She clearly didnt beat the guy up. No doubt. She did however attack him, and she should have to pay for the bloodwork and any other tests this guy wants to make sure he didnt contract a disease from her. She should also be locked up in an actual cage for at least 1 year in prison too IMO as a deterrent to her and others. The Leftists are completely freaking out of control...AGAIN...its always them. They burned down cities all over the North with their BLM farce, they just took an entire engineering building hostage at UW, they are destroying innocent peoples Teslas across the nation, they are burning down Tesla dealerships, now this BS. They act as if they are above the law and they can burn, loot, murder, steal, destroy, assault and spit on whatever the Hell they want to simply because they are upset. Enough is enough. Time to lock these people up when they attack people and their property. Somebody spits on me, they better be able to whip my azz because we are gonna find out quick. This is a woman though. Am I gonna hit a woman? Hell no. Lock her azz up though.