With equal talent rank the SEC coaching staffs

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1. Georgia
2. Auburn
3. South Carolina
4. Alabama
5. Florida
6. LSU
7. Vanderbilt
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10. Miss. St.
11.Mississippi
12.Kentucky
 
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i dont know what world you would have les miles above Tenn or Arkansas.

les miles = the suck. uban meyer is about to join that list as well.
 
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1. Georgia
2. Auburn
3. South Carolina
4. LSU (?)
5. UT

This how I would rank them. Part of coaching is recruiting.
LSU had better coaching a year ago, I dont know how many are left. Meyer is to unknown to rank higher.
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Oct 17, 2005 11:29 AM
1. Georgia
2. Auburn
3. South Carolina
4. LSU (?)
5. UT

This how I would rank them. Part of coaching is recruiting.
LSU had better coaching a year ago, I dont know how many are left.  Meyer is to unknown to rank higher.
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No way LSU should be ahead of UT...Miles has proven nothing, and Tommy Tubberville had one foot out the door before a great season in 04 with a ton of NFL talent.
 
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1.)SC, 2.) Ga,3.) Auburn,4.) Bama,6) UT, 7.) LSU, 8.) FLA, 9.) Vandy, 10.) Ky, 11.)Mississippi, 12.) MSU
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 17, 2005 5:14 PM
1.)SC, 2.) Ga,3.) Auburn,4.) Bama,6) UT, 7.) LSU, 8.) FLA, 9.) Vandy, 10.) Ky, 11.)Mississippi, 12.) MSU
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SC
Auburn
UGA
Bama (Kines)
Florida
UT
Ark
LSU
MSU
Vandy
Ole Miss
UK
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 17, 2005 5:32 PM
SC
Auburn
UGA
Bama (Kines)
Florida
UT
Ark
LSU
MSU
Vandy
Ole Miss
UK
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Sorry, don't see how Tubby could be ahead of Fulmer, as much as I do not like Fulmer, as I said in another post, he is way more proven that Tubbs. Spurrier may well be a thing of the past, I do not see him enjoying the same success he had at Florida.
 
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Originally posted by RollTideRoll@Oct 17, 2005 5:35 PM
Sorry, don't see how Tubby could be ahead of Fulmer, as much as I do not like Fulmer, as I said in another post, he is way more proven that Tubbs.  Spurrier may well be a thing of the past, I do not see him enjoying the same success he had at Florida.
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Tubbs has his guys ready to play this year as well. GT loss can be chalked up to the first game of the season. Fulmer is scared to bring real talent to his OC spot, and that is a big minus. He is a superior recruiter, but he is running scared.
Tubbs had Bobby Petrino, unbelievable offensive mind.

Spurrier with equal talent wins hands down. He will make USC competitive.
 
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Originally posted by RollTideRoll@Oct 17, 2005 5:35 PM
Sorry, don't see how Tubby could be ahead of Fulmer, as much as I do not like Fulmer, as I said in another post, he is way more proven that Tubbs.  Spurrier may well be a thing of the past, I do not see him enjoying the same success he had at Florida.
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Agreed. Also, the shine is now officially off of Meyer. He DOES have talent and his offense just does NOT work in the SEC.
 
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Originally posted by RollTideRoll@Oct 17, 2005 5:35 PM
Sorry, don't see how Tubby could be ahead of Fulmer, as much as I do not like Fulmer, as I said in another post, he is way more proven that Tubbs.  Spurrier may well be a thing of the past, I do not see him enjoying the same success he had at Florida.
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Tubby beat Phil twice last year and Spurrier cannot have the same success at SC that he had at FLa.
 
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Interesting how the win against Florida catapults Shula up to the top of the list.

He is 1 or 2 games over .500

He was won exactly 1 game against a supposedly better team (Florida)

The strength of schedule to date this year is among the lowest in the NCAA.

To go with his "signature win" he almost got a "signature loss" last week.

Bama has played to it's competition (not especially impressive against MTSU, So. Miss (hurricane ravaged), Ark and Ole Miss).

CMS is a fine coach but I think the jury is still out to call him one of the top coaches in SEC.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 18, 2005 9:35 AM
Tubby beat Fat Fhil twice last year and Spurrier cannot have the same success at SC that he had at FLa.
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Now why can't Spurrier, if he is so great, not repeat his success at SC that he did at Florida. Florida was not a world beater before he got there. They had never won an SEC title. They were on probation. Holtz has lifted SC to the level that Florida was pre-Spurrier. Spurrier won the ACC when he coached at Duke!

Tubby beat everybody he coached against last year.... doesn't make him the best coach. Remember, he lost to alot of people too before last year, and he'll lose to alot more in the future. If he was so great, he'd quit scheduling I-AA teams.
 
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Last year was the first time in Tommy Tuberville's career that he lost less than 4 games.
 
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1. South Carolina
2. Georgia
3. Tennessee
4. Florida (Just based on the defensive coaches / Meyer and his OC are unproven in the SEC)
5. LSU
6. Auburn
7. Alabama
8. Mississippi
9. Vanderbilt
10. Arkansas
11. Mississippi St.
12. Kentucky

 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 18, 2005 1:49 PM
Last year was the first time in Tommy Tuberville's career that he lost less than 4 games.
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It is amazing how short everyone's memory tends to be. The winningest coach in the country has dropped to middle of the pack on most of these lists after 2 losses, While Tubby has ONE GOOD YEAR in which his entire backfield went in the first round of the draft and now he is a better coach. :eek:lol:
 
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Most of the coaches in the SEC are pretty good, but the problem is, there's no such thing as "With Equal Talent". Getting the talent on campus is probably the most important part of the equation.
 
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Midseason is not important anyway.... its where they finish at the end of the season. Typically, Fulmer gets the negative pub... then pulls off a few big wins (like Miami a few years ago) and finishes with a respectable record.

No one has mentioned in all these posts that the Vols "downslide" the past few seasons has also coincided with Georgia's resurgence. He's won more against Florida this decade, but Florida is still not as bad as some of Georgia's teams were in the 90's. Basically, Florida has not fallen to the lower depths of the SEC and Georgia has replaced them as a top 10 team every season. If anything, Fulmer had the oppty to raise the Vols to the top level of the SEC after Spurrier left in 2001... and instead let Georgia jump over the Vols as the team to beat in the East. And that was also after boasting how great the Vols were going to be in 2002. Phil needs to just quit crowing before the season and do it on the field.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 18, 2005 3:05 PM
Most of the coaches in the SEC are pretty good, but the problem is, there's no such thing as "With Equal Talent".  Getting the talent on campus is probably the most important part of the equation.
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The season before Tuberville's arrival, Auburn finished with a 3-8 record and a last place finish in the SEC Western Division. Tuberville guided the program back to the top of the league standings, leading Auburn to an SEC Championship, four Western Division titles including outright championships in 2000 and 2004 and co-championships in 2001 and 2002. Under his direction, the Tigers have made five consecutive bowl appearances including two New Year's Day bowl berths.

His Auburn record stands at 51-24 while his overall record in 10 years as a head coach is 76-44.

The above is from Auburns bio. By comparison Fulmer inherited a program that 3 years previously won the sec and finished the season ranked in the top 5. IMO he has done more with considerably less.

 
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Although, the Vols finishing ranked 12th in 1992 was in large part to victories attributed to Fulmer's interim head coaching victories over Georgia, Florida and Boston College. The 5 seasons prior to 1992, the Vols were 9-3, 9-3, 9-2-2, 11-1, and 5-6

And yes, Auburn did finish 3-8 prior to Tubby's arrival. But only after the little Terry Bowden jumped ship mid-season. Prior to that season, Auburn was 10-3 and won the West Division. Before that 8-4, 8-4, 9-1-1, 11-0.

So you see, Tubby did not inherit a program much different than Fulmer's.
 
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I'm not saying that the Auburn staff is bad at all, just pointing out that they had mediocre results up until last year. I think if you'll go back and look you'll find that Tuberville averaged about 5 losses during his first 5 seasons.

Also, although Auburn only won 3 games during Bowden's last year, I'm pretty sure they were a 9 or 10 win team the year before that.
 
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Tubby's first 5 seasons at Auburn
1999 5-6
2000 9-4
2001 7-5
2002 9-4
2003 8-5

Fulmer's first 5 seasons at Tennessee
1993 10-2
1994 8-4
1995 11-1
1996 10-2
1997 11-2
 
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I guess all those wins mean nothing in light of this year's two losses.

Come on people.

Isn't it enough that the jokes from espn make light of our staff, even though they're the winningest staff in the nation, without our own fans piling on?

Some folks need to mature in their thinking and realize that no one can win every game.

Georgia was supposed to win it all last year, we beat them.

We're supposed to win it all this year, they and Florida beat us.

It happens.

I can't imagine any set of circumstances that could put South Carolina's coaches above ours. They've not won anything. If you're basing it on Spurrier's success at Florida, that's just wrong. Let's see what he can do with far less talent than he has ever had before.

I can see putting Richt above Fulmer, he has owned Fulmer. But how can you justify any other coach ahead of Fulmer?

Shula, 0/2
Miles 0/1
Meyer 1/0 but he's shown big cracks since. And the crying is a darned embarrassment. He should apologize to the Florida fan base for such behavior.
Tuberville between his Ole Miss and Auburn tenure is what, 2/4 against us?
Nutt 0-6?

Come on folks. Let's look at something besides our bruised feelings for argument.
 
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Originally posted by allvol@Oct 17, 2005 5:39 PM
Agreed.  Also, the shine is now officially off of Meyer.  He DOES have talent and his offense just does NOT work in the SEC.
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I don't think we can say this yet. We'll know this better in a couple of years when Meyer gets the linemen and QB he needs for his scheme. The telling thing about him is that he has not successfully adapted his scheme to his players. An interesting experiment.
 
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Originally posted by holdemvol@Oct 18, 2005 3:05 PM
It is amazing how short everyone's memory tends to be.  The winningest coach in the country has dropped to middle of the pack on most of these lists after 2 losses, While Tubby has ONE GOOD YEAR in which his entire backfield went in the first round of the draft and now he is a better coach. :eek:lol:
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I agree with you completely. Fulmer still shines well above Troubleville.</span> Look at the winning percentages over their entire careers. Look at the strength of schedule.

For Troubleville, its easier to schedule victories when you dip into the I-AAs and the door mats of the I-A&#39;s.

Please note that we don&#39;t play Middle Tennessee and Western Kentucky and before some of you naysayers tunes in, UAB would beat either Middle or <span style=\'color:red\'>Western.
 
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