why the hate for trooper taylor?

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ok, just curious but why does everybody hate on tt on here? if memory serves me correctly, he brought much needed energy to the coaching staff and every unit he coached, rapid improvement followed. first with the rb's and then with the wr's. granted he looked like a fool with his hat on backwards and his chest bumping (thought it was cool the first time i saw it, then found it to get a little old very quickly) but he had great results and was a great recruiter. am i missing something here? feel free to weigh in.
 
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Um ok im sure there is an abundance of these threads on here. Sure he brought a bit of energy to the sideline but thats about it. He focused on YAC and then YAC seemed nonexistent. also other than Robert Meacheam he didnt really show any signs of great results
 
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ok i get it that the chest bump rubs people the wrong way, but he did get results. two 1000 yard rushers when he coached rb's and meachem and swain i believe were the top receiving duo in the country when he coached wr's. so i can look past the chest bumping with results like that
 
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I do not hate him but have run into UT fans that think he should be HC. So knowing he is not even near ready for something like that. I find him dangerous. Belittling him makes those who would raise him up think twice.
 
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jshunt91 said:
ok i get it that the chest bump rubs people the wrong way, but he did get results. two 1000 yard rushers when he coached rb's and meachem and swain i believe were the top receiving duo in the country when he coached wr's. so i can look past the chest bumping with results like that
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You think he was solely responsible for their success.?
 
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Personally, I think he'd be pretty great at UT. He could have his same position as like Co Offensive Coordinator, learn about calling the plays from Lane Kiffin, being a positional coach as well, and a great recruiter.
 
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Its not about him being head coach, this goes farther back than that. I get tired of hearing people saying "were working like heck" to make fun of Phil, and saying" chest bump" to make fun of Trooper. They don't do it for you to laugh at. Trooper always fired his players up and gave them a chest bump to celebrate. Trooper brought energy, an estatic level of enthusiam, and a huge load of confidence in his players that were missing this year.
 
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TNVol92 said:
Its not about him being head coach, this goes farther back than that. I get tired of hearing people saying "were working like heck" to make fun of Phil, and saying" chest bump" to make fun of Trooper. They don't do it for you to laugh at. Trooper always fired his players up and gave them a chest bump to celebrate. Trooper brought energy, an estatic level of enthusiam, and a huge load of confidence in his players that were missing this year.
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I agree 100 percent. I liked him more for the motivational coach he was. That was missing this year for sure. No way to deny it.
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Jewbaccah said:
Belittling him makes those who would raise him up think twice.
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That is absolutely one of the most idiotic comments I have ever read. By belittling, you mean making the same moronic comment about chest bumps over and over and over and over? So far, that's all I've seen the majority of whiners here do.

Before the haters go on to make any comments about how he shouldn't be a head coach, and suggest that I'm an idiot for doing so, get it straight. I don't think he should be the head coach by any means. But all of the positive comments I've read in this thread are dead on. I've seen no factual proof otherwise to suggest that he didn't make a fairly significant improvement in the RB/WR core.

I liked TT. I liked his fire. I liked that fact that when players came off the field, they chest bumped him back. Not like now where the turn their heads in total disrespect (and possibly disgust, I don't know) when they come off the field and Phil attempts to pat them on the back.

This team has no heart, no leadership, and no discipline. TT had all of those.
 
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I loved him for the psych-prep coaching, sideline coaching, and recruiting-- and the first two were real weaknesses of Fulmer's coaching teams. In fact, he was so good at them, that I was bummed out by the end of his first year because it was obvious he was going to be given a better offer by a lesser program before he'd reached the level to have an impact on the team as a whole-- much less reach OC quality.

In fact, I think that's still a problem. I haven't followed him closely enough at OK State to know if he's reached OC or co-OC level yet, and I don't know if he'd be willing to move back for anything less after relocating so recently. What's more, OK State has one enormously wealthy booster as well as the normal collection that are just everydayl-rich, and he's pretty much said he'd make it possible for State to make them the best program in OK. If they've got any brains over there (and, sure, that's a question) that means hanging onto Trooper.

So, I'd love to get Trooper back but I'll be surprised if we get that lucky.
 
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I would be all for TT coming back. IMO, he did great things while he was here and it's unfortunate that many people give him no credit for the contrubutions he made here. No, he probably isn't ready to be a head coach, but i would love to have him back as an assistant.
 
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I think some people didn't like the fact that after only a few years here he was supposedly using the Oklahoma St job offer to lobby for the OC job here after Cut left. My question is what has his influence been at Oklahoma St? I know he's the Co-Offensive Coordinator, but has he contributed to their recent success? If so, he will eventually prove that he should have been offered the OC job here.
 
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If you really want to know why all the hate for Trooper, just look back to one of Hat's posts.No offense to Hat, but when he showed his dislike for Taylor and his chest bumping, many of the folks on here suddenly couldn't stand the guy. I don't think that many of them can even tell you why they don't like the guy. Sorry Hat but it's the truth. Me and another poster on here were discussing the very same thing the other night and came up with that conclusion.
 
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clearly people are upset with his enthusiasm or that he wears his hat backwards..

How many old white men are there on this board? if the worst thing you can say is that he chest bumps and turns his hat backwards, you guys need to come into the here and now.

In no way do I think TT is the best thing since sliced bread, but enthusiasm is one thing that is missing on this lifeless team....
 
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Trooper Taylor is a dime a dozen. Do you all honestly think the man is the only young and excitable coach out there than can relate to youth?

I have no problem with the man, but his God-like status among some of the Tennessee fans is a little crazy. I even wear my hat backwards, hell if I'm playing a little backyard football and get my Brett Farve on I've been known to pull out a chest-bump.
 
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Business said:
Trooper Taylor is a dime a dozen. Do you all honestly think the man is the only young and excitable coach out there than can relate to youth?

I have no problem with the man, but his God-like status among some of the Tennessee fans is a little crazy. I even wear my hat backwards, hell if I'm playing a little backyard football and get my Brett Farve on I've been known to pull out a chest-bump.
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But its not just that, it's that he's a really good position coach as well. Sure he's not ready as a HC or anything, but I think he'd be at least a decent OC right now, and one of the better position coaches and recruiters in the country.
 
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bburger991 said:
But its not just that, it's that he's a really good position coach as well. Sure he's not ready as a HC or anything, but I think he'd be at least a decent OC right now, and one of the better position coaches and recruiters in the country.
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Like I said, I don't hate the man or think he's a sub-par coach at all. It's just the opinion, by some, that the man is next to Jesus himself in instilling faith and hope among followers that I just don't understand.

If you think Tropper Taylor is the only young, good position coach, that could be a half way good OC, that can recruit, and can also get someone excited then well I don't know about you, then.
 
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Hotrodpinto said:
If you really want to know why all the hate for Trooper, just look back to one of Hat's posts.No offense to Hat, but when he showed his dislike for Taylor and his chest bumping, many of the folks on here suddenly couldn't stand the guy. I don't think that many of them can even tell you why they don't like the guy. Sorry Hat but it's the truth. Me and another poster on here were discussing the very same thing the other night and came up with that conclusion.
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You're kidding, right?

There are plenty of examples of people not liking Troopers antics.
 
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I honestly think the love fest with him comes from him being about the only out-going personality in the Vanillia, Stay The Course, etc. time that he was here.

It just seems like any person that comes around Tennessee that is out-going, a good quote, and has just an inch of charisma is "Like Bruce Pearl" or the "Next Bruce Pearl". It's like eating Saltines for 3 years and getting thrown a badly-cooked Prime Rib. That's going to be the best Prime Rib you ever ate and you will defend it's ability to please till the day you die.

I'm rambling here, but I hope you get where I'm coming from.
 
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Feel free to read everything in that thread carefully Jewbaccah. What are you some kind of internet hero? Congrats on using the search function. If you read that entire thread including my following posts, with any semblance of reading comprehension, you would have an argument to back your pointless quoting. Obviously you didn't put that much work into it. Never have I said, hey, let's make TT our head coach! So, go ahead and quote random lines from my posts without actually providing any supporting evidence for the stupid that comes out of your head and spills onto these forums.

To vol_freak. What "antics" are you referring to? I'm still looking for something more substantial than chest bumps and backwards hats (watch the game this week, there IS the old white guy that wears his hat backwards every game). Like I said before, all I've seen on these forums up to this point is a bunch of idiotic quips about chest bumps. From the opposing point of view, I've seen people constantly mention the work he did with the receivers and backs and his sideline presence. If there's more about TT people felt wasn't good for UT then I haven't seen it supported here.

I can only speak for myself here, but everyone I've seen who bashes a TT post takes it to extremes. Simply because I state I felt TT was good at the job he did here at UT, doesn't mean I think he's "the only young, good position coach, that could be a half way good OC, that can recruit, and can also get someone excited..."

Not to point you out Business, yours was just the most recent post to say the very thing that I don't understand. I liked TT, felt he was good here at UT. I never said we can't find someone just like him.
 
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