Why the H*#! is Cutcliffe coaching in the Outback Bowl!

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Think about it: In 1998 before UT was to play in the most important football game in 31 years ('68 Orange Bowl) he hightails off to Ole Miss, leaving the game in the hands of a neophyte named Sanders. This year before a meaningless minor bowl game he elects to stay! What gives?
 
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I have wondered the same thing. It probably has to do with differences in his contract between Ole Miss and Duke.
 
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Ole Miss wanted him to start immediately. If I'm not mistaken, he actually led Ole Miss to a bowl game victory.

Duke's season is over. Whether he starts Jan 10 or Dec 10 isn't of much consequence. We don't and won't have anyone else to be OC, so let him stay. You people who seem to think this is so horrendous are overreacting. It's not that big of a deal.

Would you rather the grad assistants do the coaching?
 
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Wonder if Cut actually had stayed for the Fiesta Bowl if we would have won. Certainly not the way he coached in this year's SECCG, with the 1-4 yard passes. Peerless Price would not have made Daniel Moore's celebrated print.
 
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rockydoc said:
Wonder if Cut actually had stayed for the Fiesta Bowl if we would have won. Certainly not the way he coached in this year's SECCG, with the 1-4 yard passes. Peerless Price would not have made Daniel Moore's celebrated print.
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Do you not remember the two long touchdown passes Martin threw in the SEC title game in '98? I'm pretty certain both of them were over 4 yards in length.
 
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rockydoc said:
Wonder if Cut actually had stayed for the Fiesta Bowl if we would have won. Certainly not the way he coached in this year's SECCG, with the 1-4 yard passes. Peerless Price would not have made Daniel Moore's celebrated print.
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Cut got us to that championship game and we had the talent to do more than 4 yard passes. For the record, we even threw it down the field in the SECCG. I'm not a Cut supporter by any means and I wasn't a Cut supporter the first time around, but quit exaggerating.
 
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volfanbill said:
Ole Miss wanted him to start immediately. If I'm not mistaken, he actually led Ole Miss to a bowl game victory.

Duke's season is over. Whether he starts Jan 10 or Dec 10 isn't of much consequence. We don't and won't have anyone else to be OC, so let him stay. You people who seem to think this is so horrendous are overreacting. It's not that big of a deal.

Would you rather the grad assistants do the coaching?
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Actually, yes! especially if the GA is of the same caliber as former grad assistant Jon Gruden.
 
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The whole thing is to give cover in case of an embarassing whoopin at the hands of the badgers. If the Vols win then it was the culmination of a mid-season turn around by Fulmer, if they loose it all falls at the feet of former coaches who were distracted by their new jobs. One thing is fairly certain, these guys are still coaching for the Vols because Fulmer asked them to not because it was their first choice to do so.
 
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also funny how Gruden loves the West Coast offense. Nothing like short, 4 yard passes to get the job done.
 
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Keeping Cutcliffe around is like keeping pictures in your house of a first wife. Nothing good can come of it.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The whole thing is to give cover in case of an embarassing whoopin at the hands of the badgers. If the Vols win then it was the culmination of a mid-season turn around by Fulmer, if they loose it all falls at the feet of former coaches who were distracted by their new jobs. One thing is fairly certain, these guys are still coaching for the Vols because Fulmer asked them to not because it was their first choice to do so.
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your posts are getting worse and worse. How is it fairly certain?
 
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volfanbill said:
Funny how Gruden seems to always go back to his days under Mike Holmgreen for all his knowledge.
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Is that why he had Johnny Majors introduce him at the banquet when he accepted the AFC Coach of the Year award he won in Oakland?
 
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hatvol96 said:
The West Coast offense, by my quick count, has won 8 Super Bowls.
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I never said there was anything wrong with the West Coast offense. Just pointing out that it's current version is somewhat similar to what we ran this year.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Is that why he had Johnny Majors introduce him at the banquet when he accepted the AFC Coach of the Year award he won in Oakland?
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I've seen at least two interviews where Gruden refers to what he learned with the Niners and the Packers. I have never heard him mention his days as a grad assistant at UT once. But I haven't paid a great deal of attention to everything about him.
 
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volfanbill said:
I never said there was anything wrong with the West Coast offense. Just pointing out that it's current version is somewhat similar to what we ran this year.
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Details, details, details . . . Gruden looks cool on the sideline. Everybody knows that is the most important thing.
 
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GAVol said:
Details, details, details . . . Gruden looks cool on the sideline. Everybody knows that is the most important thing.
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ah. it's not x's and o's so much as cut just can't make the chucky face eh?
 
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I think he gets some type of big bonus for coaching in a bowl game. It's the money baby!!
 
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GAVol said:
Exactly . . . You don't need X's and O's as long as your coach can provide good cutaway shots on TV during the game.
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so the biggest issue with Fulmer really is that the golf clap just isn't a good enough cutaway shot? I've learned so much tonight.
 
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I think he, and many other coaches (Trooper, Pelini, etc.) are coaching due to a recruiting dead period coming up or already going on.

Do I have the date rights?

Back in the day, a coach was needed to get in and keep players commitments in place, now you can't even contact a player in this period.

hvwarrior or someone with a little better knowledge of recruiting could chime in here and say yay or nay on my reasoning. I'm not 100% sure I'm right.
 
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Business said:
I think he, and many other coaches (Trooper, Pelini, etc.) are coaching due to a recruiting dead period coming up or already in place.

Do I have the date rights?

Back in the day, a coach was needed to get in and keep players commitments in place, now you can't even contact a player in this period.

hvwarrior or someone with a little better knowledge of recruiting could chime in here and say yay or nay on my reasoning. I'm not 100% sure I'm right.
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i thought the same thing, which is why i said it doesn't matter to Duke whether he starts Dec 11 or Jan 10th.

But the more I think about it, I want to say I've heard new coaches can have the dead period waived. But i may be WAY OFF on that part.
 
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I'm by no means a recruiting expert, but I think I saw the other day that the "Dead Period" starts in mid-December and runs through either Jan 3rd or 4th . . . so you are right, there's really no benefit to a coach racing to get to his next job right now.
 
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