Why so cold?

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AlcoVOLic said:
Why do we go cold for huge blocks of time? So odd. Achilles heal of Tennessee basketball. Year after year. So frustrating.
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In this particular game, and against Cuse, as well, both teams tried to guard us tight and run us off the 3-pt line. This forces us to take low percentage 18-ft jumpers, or run up against Edey (and McLeod for Cuse) for contested shots at the rim. Purdue has the KenPom #6 defense to boot.
 
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It won't be a popular answer but I firmly believe the court and arena mess with players intuitive, subconscious perception.

When looking down or laterally, the court markings make it hard orient yourself and initiate muscle memory to court position. Meanwhile, the smaller arena (compared to big SEC arenas) is harder to adjust your perception with distance to the rim once looking at the basket.
 
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All the hustle makes it hard to shoot consistently. It’s also why Purdue missed so many free throws against us. While the athletes can push through fatigue and run all game long, it still effects their strength and balance. Running a thirsty defense has more downside than foul trouble. It also has more upside than creating turnovers.
 
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cncchris33 said:
In this particular game, and against Cuse, as well, both teams tried to guard us tight and run us off the 3-pt line. This forces us to take low percentage 18-ft jumpers, or run up against Edey (and McLeod for Cuse) for contested shots at the rim. Purdue has the KenPom #6 defense to boot.
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This is correct. Also, while I whined about the offense all night AND FTs def had something to do with this, we were a buzzer beater away from putting up 70 again tonight. Previous season “bad offense” nights meant we struggled to hit 50. It’s clear that we have more weapons this season, as evidenced by Gainey getting hot the final 10 mins. Tonight was just truly a terrible shooting night that was likely negatively aided by constant changing lineups and stoppages in play due to fouls.
 
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berryvol said:
This is correct. Also, while I whined about the offense all night AND FTs def had something to do with this, we were a buzzer beater away from putting up 70 again tonight. Previous season “bad offense” nights meant we struggled to hit 50. It’s clear that we have more weapons this season, as evidenced by Gainey getting hot the final 10 mins. Tonight was just truly a terrible shooting night that was likely negatively aided by constant changing lineups and stoppages in play due to fouls.
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Right, and tonight we just didn't do anything on the offensive glass to help ourselves when the shots weren't falling, either.
 
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I’m hopeful Vescovi is gonna find his stroke. He’s been absolutely awful from 3. Ziegler too. Pretty much everyone except Knecht. I just hope the weird uptightedness doesn’t rub off on Knecht.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
It won't be a popular answer but I firmly believe the court and arena mess with players intuitive, subconscious perception.

When looking down or laterally, the court markings make it hard orient yourself and initiate muscle memory to court position. Meanwhile, the smaller arena (compared to big SEC arenas) is harder to adjust your perception with distance to the rim once looking at the basket.
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The 3 point shooting across the board in this tournament has been pretty bad. I think having two lines on the court messes with depth perception and positioning on the court. I don’t know why the NBA line is there at all, unless I missed where Honolulu is getting an expansion team.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Right, and tonight we just didn't do anything on the offensive glass to help ourselves when the shots weren't falling, either.
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Yup, which is what makes Purdue so good. They are going to control the glass almost every single night - the margin for error is razor thin if you don’t hit shots.


I’ll be honest, I don’t expect much tomorrow as I’m sure our legs will be toast after that wrestling match. But it will be telling if we continue to have nights like tonight (like last season) or if it proves to be a one off. Still, id rather my bad offensive nights be 67 points than the abortion in the garden ™️ against Texas tech in 2021.
 
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Here’s my latest theory. The Tennessee’s physical defense saps the players’ energy at the offensive end. A lot of their shots are short or have a flat arc.

If that is what‘s happening, maybe they could to try to get more points in transition, drive to the goal more and get to the free throw line, or crash the boards hard. Tonight they were able to stay close with free throws, although the free throws didn’t really result from driving to the basket. They got killed on the boards and nothing in transition either.
 
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SGMVols said:
The 3 point shooting across the board in this tournament has been pretty bad. I think having two lines on the court messes with depth perception and positioning on the court. I don’t know why the NBA line is there at all, unless I missed where Honolulu is getting an expansion team.
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No doubt it messes with the perception. It used to mess with me when I would play on unconventional floors. It's not too bad on static kickout shots but really bad when shooting quickly coming screens.

If you notice the box also has two sets of markings which mess with your subconscious perceptions and muscle memory when playing closer to the basket.

The difference in the background of the arena size is just icing on the cake. Oddly enough, this messes with your static kickout shots instead of one's coming off screens.
 
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Bottom line, all we needed to do was make a couple more shots. Lots of streak shooters on this team. Luckily Gainey caught fire in the 2nd half or we get blown out. Hope Vescovi finds his shot soon. Tough night, but at least we fought hard, played great D, and still had a chance at the end.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
It won't be a popular answer but I firmly believe the court and arena mess with players intuitive, subconscious perception.

When looking down or laterally, the court markings make it hard orient yourself and initiate muscle memory to court position. Meanwhile, the smaller arena (compared to big SEC arenas) is harder to adjust your perception with distance to the rim once looking at the basket.
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Having played (quite some time ago), I totally agree with this!!
 
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With a healthy Zeigler and a halfway decent Vescovi, we win by double digits tonight. I'd love to see Awaka get more minutes. Hes aggressive and literally explodes at the rim. Our frosh just need to see more time. We'll be fine
 
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SGidds said:
Here’s my latest theory. The Tennessee’s physical defense saps the players’ energy at the offensive end. A lot of their shots are short or have a flat arc.

If that is what‘s happening, maybe they could to try to get more points in transition, drive to the goal more and get to the free throw line, or crash the boards hard. Tonight they were able to stay close with free throws, although the free throws didn’t really result from driving to the basket. They got killed on the boards and nothing in transition either.
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Wow. Definitely the first time I’ve heard this. Revolutionary.
 
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VFLer said:
Bottom line, all we needed to do was make a couple more shots. Lots of streak shooters on this team. Luckily Gainey caught fire in the 2nd half or we get blown out. Hope Vescovi finds his shot soon. Tough night, but at least we fought hard, played great D, and still had a chance at the end.
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The day Vescovi finds his shot is the day that this Tennessee team becomes a legit Final Four caliber team. Just an okay shooting night from him would have gotten us over the jump tonight.
 
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Not real sure what designated plays Tennessee can run to get a shooter loose for a bucket to snap the cold spell, but running a ball screen on the perimeter will only go so far, need some creative offense to snap cold streaks again this year.
 
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I suppose I'm the only one on here who read the thread title and thought: "Been a long time crossing bridge of sighs."
 
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AlcoVOLic said:
Why do we go cold for huge blocks of time? So odd. Achilles heal of Tennessee basketball. Year after year. So frustrating.
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Because Barnes recruits mentally soft players. Great human beings but zero toughness when it counts. Lights are always too bright
 
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WhenUrVolUrVFL said:
I’m hopeful Vescovi is gonna find his stroke. He’s been absolutely awful from 3. Ziegler too. Pretty much everyone except Knecht. I just hope the weird uptightedness doesn’t rub off on Knecht.
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They aren’t uptight! They are cranking up 25-30 threes a game! They just need to make them. Simple as that. 8-30 for the game tonight and at least 10 of the misses were wide open looks. ZZ is hurting offense with his poor shooting and careless turnovers. 14 turnovers in 4 games. That’s 3.5tns a game in 18mins. Hopefully he gets the rust off soon
 
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S Tampa Vol said:
Because Barnes recruits mentally soft players. Great human beings but zero toughness when it counts. Lights are always too bright
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Holy smokes, it's literally like you are trying to be ironic. Every post has been so bad. I hope you are trolling. Because otherwise you are like really, really....nah, nevermind
 
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cncchris33 said:
In this particular game, and against Cuse, as well, both teams tried to guard us tight and run us off the 3-pt line. This forces us to take low percentage 18-ft jumpers, or run up against Edey (and McLeod for Cuse) for contested shots at the rim. Purdue has the KenPom #6 defense to boot.
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Purdue took Knecht away as an option in the second half and Gainey did not heat up until late in the game.
 
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We're throwing too many excuses around. Both teams had the same
excuses. Their top players also were off the mark and Edey was in foul
trouble the whole game.

Truth of the matter is that Purdue is the best team in the country and UT
stayed with them and had a chance at the upset.

We watched 2 FF teams last night. No team plays perfect for a full game.
 
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