Why no Creer?

#51
#51
kptvol said:
The RT is Ramon Foster.
Click to expand...

vols kick balls said:
Ramon Foster. He was at RT.
Click to expand...

I know this. I was drinking and not listening with full attention, so he could have been referring to him, but I thought he was referring to the back missing a block. I could certainly be wrong, this was the most uninterested I have been in a UT game since I have been a fan.
 
#52
#52
allvol123 said:
I know this. I was drinking and not listening with full attention, so he could have been referring to him, but I thought he was referring to the back missing a block. I could certainly be wrong, this was the most uninterested I have been in a UT game since I have been a fan.
Click to expand...
You could certainly be right but I believe it was Ramon. I too was fairly disinterested and more than fairly drunk.
 
#53
#53
allvol123 said:
I know this. I was drinking and not listening with full attention, so he could have been referring to him, but I thought he was referring to the back missing a block. I could certainly be wrong, this was the most uninterested I have been in a UT game since I have been a fan.
Click to expand...

He definitely indicated Ramon. I don't blame you for missing that one, though.
 
#54
#54
Edit: why can't I ever link to other threads correctly?

Pages 62-63 of game thread confirm that it was Ramon.
 
#56
#56
If I were Creer, I would find me a Big 12 program that needed a running back. It is obvious that this staff does not know how to use his talent. He is wasting his time playing for Fulmer.
 
#57
#57
onevol74 said:
If I were Creer, I would find me a Big 12 program that needed a running back. It is obvious that this staff does not know how to use his talent. He is wasting his time playing for Fulmer.
Click to expand...
Yep, let him waste a year transferring instead of being a primary back here next year. Brilliant.
 
#58
#58
vols kick balls said:
Yep, let him waste a year transferring instead of being a primary back here next year. Brilliant.
Click to expand...

Do you think this season is already a waste? If so and you believe he will be a primary back next year, why not get the transition in motion?
 
#62
#62
vols kick balls said:
People have a major hard-on for Hardesty because he runs hard. I love the way Hardesty runs too but his lack of vision really kills his physical talents. People would grow tiresome of him very quickly if he was getting the majority of the carries.
Click to expand...

My counterpoint to that would be, vision can be learned, speed can't.
 
#64
#64
I would love to see Foster and Hardesty both in the backfield, with Foster as FB Hardesty as RB. Foster will probably play FB at the next level if he gets a shot, but I think he's got too big of an ego to go for that at UT.
 
#65
#65
Apparently there are others that think Creer should be playing more, along with Moore and even Berry on offense.

Quote:
"UT needs a receiver who can make a defender pay for tight coverage. It needs a running back who can turn a 15-yard run into a 50-yard touchdown."

"That's why players like Moore and running back Lennon Creer should get more opportunities. And that's why strong safety Eric Berry should be used on offense as well as defense."


Adams: At 2-3, it's time to risk changes : Columns : GoVolsXtra.com
 
#66
#66
oklavol said:
My counterpoint to that would be, vision can be learned, speed can't.
Click to expand...
It's a moot point since Hardesty hasn't learned it in the 4 years since he has been here.

IMO though, you can't teach vision. I think it can be marginally improved but no more. That is a debate for another day though...
 
#67
#67
tennisguy said:
Apparently there are others that think Creer should be playing more, along with Moore and even Berry on offense.

Quote:
"UT needs a receiver who can make a defender pay for tight coverage. It needs a running back who can turn a 15-yard run into a 50-yard touchdown."

"That's why players like Moore and running back Lennon Creer should get more opportunities. And that's why strong safety Eric Berry should be used on offense as well as defense."


Adams: At 2-3, it's time to risk changes : Columns : GoVolsXtra.com
Click to expand...
I would not be against Creer getting more carries at all. He should be getting at least as many as Hardesty.
 
#69
#69
There's nothing to play for this year. UT should look at getting the younger players like Creer some experience. Start Creer and Stephens and you got something to build on for next year and the year after. :twocents:
 
#70
#70
oklavol said:
There's nothing to play for this year. UT should look at getting the younger players like Creer some experience.
Click to expand...
Agree with the idea, but Fulmer is fighting for his job so he is going to be playing the best he's got, future be damned. He is in a "win now to save my ass" mode.
 
#71
#71
vols kick balls said:
It's a moot point since Hardesty hasn't learned it in the 4 years since he has been here.

IMO though, you can't teach vision. I think it can be marginally improved but no more. That is a debate for another day though...
Click to expand...

kptvol said:
Hardesty is a redshirt junior.
Click to expand...


I think it can be learned, whether or not UT's coaching staff knows how to teach that is another story.
 
Last edited:
#72
#72
oklavol said:
I think it can be learned, whether or not UT's coaching staff knows how to teach that is another story.
Click to expand...
How would one go about learning such skill? Seriously curious. I have seen a couple drills meant to hone in this but never one to teach it.

I think it is a skill that can be honed but not learned. Some players just don't have the mental capabilities to process what they are seeing fast enough to translate it to what to do on the football field.

note: don't take that as me saying Hardesty is dumb or anything. not saying that in the least. it is a special kind of skill that not every one has.
 
#73
#73
oklavol said:
I would love to see Foster and Hardesty both in the backfield, with Foster as FB Hardesty as RB. Foster will probably play FB at the next level if he gets a shot, but I think he's got too big of an ego to go for that at UT.
Click to expand...
I don't think Foster is physical enough to be a FB. He looks to be a tweener in the NFL. To slow to be a RB but too small and not physical enough to be a FB. You can get away with it in college but not in the NFL.
 
#74
#74
vols kick balls said:
How would one go about learning such skill? Seriously curious. I have seen a couple drills meant to hone in this but never one to teach it.

I think it is a skill that can be honed but not learned. Some players just don't have the mental capabilities to process what they are seeing fast enough to translate it to what to do on the football field.

note: don't take that as me saying Hardesty is dumb or anything. not saying that in the least. it is a special kind of skill that not every one has.
Click to expand...

They teach RB's how and when to cutback at the high school level. How and when to bounce outside, etc.
 
#75
#75
oklavol said:
They teach RB's how and when to cutback at the high school level. How and when to bounce outside, etc.
Click to expand...
Not really what I am talking about. That is really just fundamentals. Every back knows how to cutback if they made it to the college level. Not every one knows how to recognize when to apply it to the field in what situations. I don't think Hardesty has the capabilities to process that info quick enough in his head to determine what to do, and that is why Hardesty always looks his best when he is just exploding threw a hole straight ahead.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top