Why is Trump destroying NATO ?

Why is Trump destroying NATO?

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Boston Vol said:
Destroying NATO? How? By demanding that countries pay more for their own defense? You know Bob Gates did that exact same thing while he was SECDEF for Obama right?
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The marxists are mad that trump is holding the country accountable. Like all welfare recipients, marxists hate it when America demands some accountability.
 
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carlos86 said:
But the Germans don't have all their eggs one basket. They have them spread out in Europe.

35 percent of gas imports came from Russia, 34 percent from Norway and 29 percent from the Netherlands.
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Germany is planning to phase out nuclear and coal, which will be replaced ultimately by natural gas. It's not about what the current numbers are. It's about what they are going to be. France is planning on doing the sake, just not any time soon. They no longer have a backbone to build up their nuclear capacity. The best thing France had going for it.

Poland is cozying up to the US because they have no plans to phase out coal, and there's plenty of coal to go around.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
The marxists are mad that trump is holding the country accountable. Like all welfare recipients, marxists hate it when America demands some accountability.
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You do realize that the vast majority of welfare recipients are white and live in Republican dominated states, especially in the South?

Those evil blue states don't seem to have a problem carrying those recipients in red states that despise them but then beg for handouts at the same time.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If HRC was prez and taking a wrecking ball to NATO and Europe like this you guys would be calling her a traitor.
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Yep pretty much because she’d have all those countries money donating to the Clinton Foundation. You know, that pay for play thing she’s so good at.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
You do realize that the vast majority of welfare recipients are white and live in Republican dominated states, especially in the South?

Those evil blue states don't seem to have a problem carrying those recipients in red states that despise them but then beg for handouts at the same time.
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This narrative that the blue states are carrying the red states is semantic.

Regardless, if they are carrying them so much, why are they still in need of carry? To keep them dependent, thus voting for further assistance.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Liberal doctrine is always lowest common denominator.


Maybe the blue states need to take care of their own first.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
This narrative that the blue states are carrying the red states is semantic.

Regardless, if they are carrying them so much, why are they still in need of carry? To keep them dependent, thus voting for further assistance.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Liberal doctrine is always lowest common denominator.


Maybe the blue states need to take care of their own first.
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This isn't the case. Republican states heavily dependent on welfare keep voting for Republicans, who want to take that away.

Blue states carrying red states financing are giving them no votes or power.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
This isn't the case. Republican states heavily dependent on welfare keep voting for Republicans, who want to take that away.
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If accurate, question why?

Why would red state "dependents" vote for policy that disrupts their handouts? Maybe because they are "not getting ahead". Seems enough people in MI, WI, and PA agreed.

This is all conjecture anyway and we cannot clump every person, state, ethnicity, ad nauseum, into some kind of voting block for political purpose.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
If accurate, question why?

Why would red state "dependents" vote for policy that disrupts their handouts? Maybe because they are "not getting ahead". Seems enough people in MI, WI, and PA agreed.

This is all conjecture anyway and we cannot clump every person, state, ethnicity, ad nauseum, into some kind of voting block for political purpose.
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It's a bull crap assumption.
 
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Orangeburst65 said:
If accurate, question why?

Why would red state "dependents" vote for policy that disrupts their handouts? Maybe because they are "not getting ahead". Seems enough people in MI, WI, and PA agreed.

This is all conjecture anyway and we cannot clump every person, state, ethnicity, ad nauseum, into some kind of voting block for political purpose.
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They are voting on social issues, with the distant hope that they will get rich even though Republican tax cuts ignore them completely, not to mention their views on labor and fair pay.

It is basically social issues. And hate of government programs even though the majority of those same right wing idiots are on welfare. They will stomach being poor to stick it to liberals. Then blame liberals when their wages are ****, they have no jobs, and their kids are stupid.

Without evil blue states, red states would be dead ass broke. And a third world country.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
They are voting on social issues, with the distant hope that they will get rich even though Republican tax cuts ignore them completely, not to mention their views on labor and fair pay.

It is basically social issues. And hate of government programs even though the majority of those same right wing idiots are on welfare. They will stomach being poor to stick it to liberals. Then blame liberals when their wages are ****, they have no jobs, and their kids are stupid.

Without evil blue states, red states would be dead ass broke. And a third world country.
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List the ways liberals have helped the American worker. I don’t mean anecdotal nonsense like “fighting for worker’s rights” and “fair pay”. I mean actual bills or policies that helped create jobs or helped bring in industry with higher pay.
 
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landscapingvol said:
List the ways liberals have helped the American worker. I don’t mean anecdotal nonsense like “fighting for worker’s rights” and “fair pay”. I mean actual bills or policies that helped create jobs or helped bring in industry with higher pay.
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We can look at the entire Obama presidency, since employment increased every month along with the stock market.
 
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landscapingvol said:
List the ways liberals have helped the American worker. I don’t mean anecdotal nonsense like “fighting for worker’s rights” and “fair pay”. I mean actual bills or policies that helped create jobs or helped bring in industry with higher pay.
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And you can claim "anecdotal" all you want, but daily, on a local level, progressive/union policies increase living standards across the country.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
They are voting on social issues, with the distant hope that they will get rich even though Republican tax cuts ignore them completely, not to mention their views on labor and fair pay.

It is basically social issues. And hate of government programs even though the majority of those same right wing idiots are on welfare. They will stomach being poor to stick it to liberals. Then blame liberals when their wages are ****, they have no jobs, and their kids are stupid.

Without evil blue states, red states would be dead ass broke. And a third world country.
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So they are idiots for "biting the hand that feeds them" narrative?

U ever think that they think the hand that is feeding them is BS?

There u go again with group politics clumping people into class, race, from a state, etc.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
They are voting on social issues, with the distant hope that they will get rich even though Republican tax cuts ignore them completely, not to mention their views on labor and fair pay.

It is basically social issues. And hate of government programs even though the majority of those same right wing idiots are on welfare. They will stomach being poor to stick it to liberals. Then blame liberals when their wages are ****, they have no jobs, and their kids are stupid.

Without evil blue states, red states would be dead ass broke. And a third world country.
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I'll bet you can smell the Trump voters while they're in Walmart.
 
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