Why is Butch Jones (still) hated so much?

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

In terms of your record saying what you are or whatever the Bill Parcells line was-I fully agree.

Just saying peel back a couple of layers on the onion and the picture looks a bit different.

They win their games against us and UF (both were roughly one score losses) and they are in the back end of their schedule with a 4-2 record with wins over 2 top 15 teams and a top 5 team.

I doubt Muschump gets fired at that point with a 4-2 record

Like I said the team kinda fell apart after Mike Bobo was named interim coach and they got shellacked every game. 3 of the 4 games with Bobo "should" have been winnable on paper-Ole Miss (Lanes first year there), KY, and Mizzou.

I was dating a Gamecock alum girly at that time so I had to watch WAY more South Carolina football than I really wanted to ha ha. Covid made us all so crazy things I suppose lol.

There are hundreds of bad teams you can say that about. They were really bad

 

[NeverWe'llSever]

The in-game decisions he made in the 2015 and 2016 seasons with all that talent border on criminality imo. Just watch the 2015 Florida game. I’m still not over that one (and OU). Probably never will be.

 

[HooahVol]

It is about respect. He was not a good coach. His record at Arkansas State supports that. Plus, going to Bama was unforgivable.

 

[Manchester Vol]

Seems that many threads turn into eith a Jones or Kiffin bashing thread. Don’t get me wrong; I hate CLK came in and ran half the team off and had virtually none of his recruiting class pan out and, Jones never could get over the hill. But, there seems to be more hatred towards Jones on VN threads than any of the other coaches and this includes Pruitt.

Is it because more was expected of him or that we didn’t really expect more from the other coaches? I mean, Pruitt could have completely devastated the program but yet he doesn’t seem the most disliked of our coaches. Jones was like forever and three coaches ago but, again, he’s beat down still and a lot.

Cause he did dumb stuff and didn’t try on the way out. Seems like he purposefully tanked that last season in anyway he could. That’s why a wasp needs to sting that boy on the face.

 

[West Vol]

No one has ever embarrassed this university like Butch. Anyone involved with hiring/extending him at Tennessee should be run out of Knoxville if they haven’t already.

 

[arkyvol]

I don’t hate Jones. Now, Dooley or Pruitt, that’s another story.

 

[beachvol23]

I agree with everything that has been said but came to post this one. His contract said UT had to pay him ~$12 million, but he was required to make a reasonable effort to obtain comparable employment to offset the buyout. Instead, he brought Nick Saban coffee for next to no money. When the UT buyout payments were finished, he immediately found someone dumb enough to give him another head coaching job.

It always irked me that UT didn't cut off his payments for breach of contract.

The current (and excellent) admin would have 100%!!!

 

[beachvol23]

Haven’t seen this posted: he was known to be a complete ahole and shady!!! I’m sure there are people around here that can share stories.

 

[VOLnMiami]

Wait, you hated hiring guys with little head coaching experience yet you're fine with the guy who had the absolute least amount of head coaching experience before getting here? Makes sense.

Yeah he turned out to be a real crappy coach huh? Pruitt had the least amount of head coaching experince, Kiffin at least was head coach of the Raiders before getting fired, He came here with the promise of loading up with top coaches and he did that and he also was a rockstar on the recruiting trail....Does that help you understand a little better?

 

[BP4Prez]

No one has ever embarrassed this university like Butch. Anyone involved with hiring/extending him at Tennessee should be run out of Knoxville if they haven’t already.

Pruitt?

 

[GoVols64]

Seems that many threads turn into eith a Jones or Kiffin bashing thread. Don’t get me wrong; I hate CLK came in and ran half the team off and had virtually none of his recruiting class pan out and, Jones never could get over the hill. But, there seems to be more hatred towards Jones on VN threads than any of the other coaches and this includes Pruitt.

Is it because more was expected of him or that we didn’t really expect more from the other coaches? I mean, Pruitt could have completely devastated the program but yet he doesn’t seem the most disliked of our coaches. Jones was like forever and three coaches ago but, again, he’s beat down still and a lot.

Who?

 

[Hairy Vols]

Probably because of all of his stupid sayings and then being photographed smoking cigars with a bunch of butt picking Bammers

It's the cigars against his own players.

Idc about the low salary (I would of done the same)

Idc about going to coach under Saban (I would of done the same)

Idc about him sucking as a coach (I would of done the same given the chance to be the HC of UT)

That and I think he lied to Hurd and took away what could have been our new all time leading rusher.

 

[whobethis16]

Yeah he turned out to be a real crappy coach huh? Pruitt had the least amount of head coaching experince, Kiffin at least was head coach of the Raiders before getting fired, He came here with the promise of loading up with top coaches and he did that and he also was a rockstar on the recruiting trail....Does that help you understand a little better?

No, because you only listed Kiffin, Dooley, and Jones and only said that you hated hiring guys with little head coaching experience. You never mentioned any of the other aspects, so I only addressed the aspects that were given. And at Tennessee? Yeah, he was incredibly crappy given if he didn't tuck tail and run we would've been under as much crap as we were under Pruitt with the NCAA.