Why Florida Can Win Saturday

#26
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Lexvol said:
Since it is game week for Fla I have decided to suspend all rationality. I am going to go out on a limb and say that UT's defensive problems are way overblown. I understand who Florida has played and beaten, but if the UT linebackers play like they played in the Cal game, it is going to be a much faster defense than Fla has seen this year. Consider yourself warned LG. This defense will be ready. Were I you, I would have wished for the D to shut AF down. Now they just feel like they have something to prove.
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Nothing irrational about your comments, Lex. I mean, I recognize that UT certainly can beat Florida this weekend just as you recognize that Florida can win. Way I look at it is this. Take a 20 game sample. If Florida played UCF 20 times, UCF could win maybe twice, tops. Once you start talking about a team being able to win 6 or more out of 20, then you really have to say that a particular game can go either way. Certainly, this game falls into that category.

But they'll only play once this year, so the other hypothetical 19 don't count.
 
#27
#27
lawgator1 said:
Top five reasons Florida can prevail at Neyland:

5) The offensive line has had two weeks to work together and develop some chemistry and to get some much-needed experience coming into the UT game. They have improved greatly across that 120 minutes.

4) The Gator defensive secondary has shown real ability. This was another spot where the Gators were thin on experience, but they are speedy and I think Charlie Strong has emphasized the fundamentals with this group such that they are ready to take on Meacham, etc. Look for Florida to play a lot of man coverage, but probably not a lot of blitzing.

3) Tim Tebow will get some time in this game, even if its close. During the Southern Miss game, he came in and ran some plays even when the game was still within reach for Southern Miss. that tells you that Meyer has a lot of confidence in his decision-making.

2) Leak is throwing darts on vertical frozen ropes 35 yards. He may not have the same ability to throw to a spot as, say, Danny Weurffel, but he has a better arm than any Florida QB I can remember. One pass in particular last Saturday was a tight spiral zinger to Caldwell directly between two defenders and was never in doubt. Look for Florida receivers to run very sharp routes, with lots of stop-and-cuts, less streak patterns.

1) Percy Harvin. Remember that name. Heck, you don't really need to remember it because you will see and hear it so often over the next few years it will haunt you in your dreams. He's a phenom.
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I predict Leak will get back to his normal self and choke on the big plays.(Especially when I have my red laser pointer aimed in his eyes):p !:) :whistling:
 
#28
#28
lawgator1 said:
Nothing irrational about your comments, Lex. I mean, I recognize that UT certainly can beat Florida this weekend just as you recognize that Florida can win. Way I look at it is this. Take a 20 game sample. If Florida played UCF 20 times, UCF could win maybe twice, tops. Once you start talking about a team being able to win 6 or more out of 20, then you really have to say that a particular game can go either way. Certainly, this game falls into that category.

But they'll only play once this year, so the other hypothetical 19 don't count.
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LG, I would give the Gators a 8 of 20 ratio against the Vols. You really underestimated their ability. :whistling:
 
#29
#29
You know I hope the Florida players have the same overconfidence after playing Central Florida and Southern Miss.

This isn't the mid 90's fun and gun when Spurrier had our number.

Chris Leak isn't Danny Wuerfel or even Doug Johnson. He will fold like a cheap tent when the pressure is on.

This isn't last year's Ainge. He's playing like a veteran QB and it's not just short 5 yard routes that he is throwing.

Don't mean to talk trash, but I think the Florida fans are in for a very rude awakening come Saturday at Neyland stadium.
 
#30
#30
if their's one or two reasons why tn might win:
1. we're a 3 1/2 pt dog at home...again...and we know how that worked out for Cal.
2. I think we got humbled on D Saturday night, and they will have a chip on their shoulder.

emotion plays so much in this game...and as bad as i hated the perfromance Saturday night, it's probably exactly what we needed. there won't be any assumptions going in to that game. And i think UF still isn't sure who they are yet...yeah, they've looked good, but agains far inferior opponents to thier skill level. And while UT may not (and this is very debatable) have as much "skill" as UF, it aint' that far off. It will be a very different ball game for UF than what they've done thus far.

If we don't make mistakes, and if we take care of the ball, which we've done a decent job of thus far, it's not a foregone conclusion that TN loses.

Likewise, we have yet to play a team like UF either...their D will be the best we've faced, and i think Ainge finally gets hit a few times, something he hasn't had to deal with.

this is an important game for both, cause i don't think either one has been tested from a defensive standpoint yet, and neither really knows how good they really are.

one other thing...i think TN really wants to reestablish home feild and the fans will be pumped....likely very loud, and hopefully will cause UF some trouble at some point in the game.
 
#31
#31
"They folded up there."
-Urban Meyer
This quote is not forgotten.

Tennesse wants it more. When the competition gets to the place where it is between these two programs, it's the desire that flips the table.

"Heart. Miles and miles of heart"
 
#32
#32
Some one who knows defense better than me feel free to correct me but if I look at the Florida offense...I think the best way to defend them is to shoot the gaps run blitzing on almost every play. If its a run you disrupt the timing a probably get a loss yards tackle. If its a pass you get a sack or at least disrupt the QB's timing and cause him to get rid of the ball, INT or an incomplete. If the Gators are probably going man to man on their DB's as Lawgator suggests, that's probably THEIR defensive game plan:question:
 
#33
#33
dan4vols said:
Some one who knows defense better than me feel free to correct me but if I look at the Florida offense...I think the best way to defend them is to shoot the gaps run blitzing on almost every play. If its a run you disrupt the timing a probably get a loss yards tackle. If its a pass you get a sack or at least disrupt the QB's timing and cause him to get rid of the ball, INT or an incomplete. If the Gators are probably going man to man on their DB's as Lawgator suggests, that's probably THEIR defensive game plan:question:
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i think UF will 1. stop the run. 2. try to take away anything underneath, and 3. try to make us go vertical.

i think we will try exacly what you said...test that offensivle line.....see if we can get pressure on Leak disrupt timing....

now offensively, if i were UF, looking at the Air force tape, i'd be tempted to put in Tebow and run more of the spread option and see if they could confuse us and take advantage of our speed too....

it'll be interesting...
 
#34
#34
Tennessee hasn't faired too terribly well the last few seasons as home dogs. Cal was an exception. Then, again, this is 2006, not any other year.

I think Florida fans in general are underestimating our offense in 2006. Sure, the Gators have a good defense, but on any given day, a talented offense can rack up 400 yards on a good defense. The inverse is true in this game, where Florida could do it to us.

Leak has probably matured a lot since last season, and this will be his 2nd trip to Neyland, so I'm not sure I agree he "folds" under pressure this year. Our defense may hold off Florida's offense, but Leak won't be nervous.

If Florida gets either DeShawn Wynn or Kestahn Moore going, it could be a long day.
 
#35
#35
VolinArizona said:
Tennessee hasn't faired too terribly well the last few seasons as home dogs. Cal was an exception. Then, again, this is 2006, not any other year.

I think Florida fans in general are underestimating our offense in 2006. Sure, the Gators have a good defense, but on any given day, a talented offense can rack up 400 yards on a good defense. The inverse is true in this game, where Florida could do it to us.

Leak has probably matured a lot since last season, and this will be his 2nd trip to Neyland, so I'm not sure I agree he "folds" under pressure this year. Our defense may hold off Florida's offense, but Leak won't be nervous.

If Florida gets either DeShawn Wynn or Kestahn Moore going, it could be a long day.
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i agree with this...make 'em one dimensional...and take your chances...UF still hasn't proved that they are physical enough up front to run the ball effectively in my opinion....

best case for us is that hte O line is moderately better than last year and we can apply similar pressure in the backfeild.
 
#36
#36
jakez4ut said:
i agree with this...make 'em one dimensional...and take your chances...UF still hasn't proved that they are physical enough up front to run the ball effectively in my opinion....

best case for us is that hte O line is moderately better than last year and we can apply similar pressure in the backfeild.
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Not sure if you mean THEIR O line or ours, but Florida's OLINE will be WORSE than last season. I think they had 3 or 4 guys either get drafted or signed as UFA's in the NFL. They always have talent everywhere, but it's a pretty young OL. In fact, I bet 4 starters have not even played in Neyland.
 
#37
#37
jakez4ut said:
i think UF will 1. stop the run. 2. try to take away anything underneath, and 3. try to make us go vertical.

i think we will try exacly what you said...test that offensivle line.....see if we can get pressure on Leak disrupt timing....

now offensively, if i were UF, looking at the Air force tape, i'd be tempted to put in Tebow and run more of the spread option and see if they could confuse us and take advantage of our speed too....

it'll be interesting...
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Not going to happen. He'll play, yes, but I'd be surprised to see Florida run the option to any signficant degree. We've run it maybe three times so far this season and Neyland is hardly the place to start running that type of very technical offense.

Florida will not change a lot from what it has been doing so far -- remember it is averaging about 40 points right now and that's with considerable second and third team guys getting time in the 4th quarters of these games.

Florida will try to stretch you by running pitches and hand offs to wide receivers in motion, yes. But no option coming this weekend to any significant degree.
 
#38
#38
VolinArizona said:
Not sure if you mean THEIR O line or ours, but Florida's OLINE will be WORSE than last season. I think they had 3 or 4 guys either get drafted or signed as UFA's in the NFL. They always have talent everywhere, but it's a pretty young OL. In fact, I bet 4 starters have not even played in Neyland.
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thiers. we did a good job last year of putting pressure on Leak and getting in tot he back feild...i feel like we need to apply similar pressure to be successful this year, but i also think UM will try to alleviate that pressure thru some scheming on offense...
 
#39
#39
lawgator1 said:
Not going to happen. He'll play, yes, but I'd be surprised to see Florida run the option to any signficant degree. We've run it maybe three times so far this season and Neyland is hardly the place to start running that type of very technical offense.

Florida will not change a lot from what it has been doing so far -- remember it is averaging about 40 points right now and that's with considerable second and third team guys getting time in the 4th quarters of these games.

Florida will try to stretch you by running pitches and hand offs to wide receivers in motion, yes. But no option coming this weekend to any significant degree.
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Good. not that i'm saying we'll win, but i like our chances with a more conventional offense lining up against our Defense.
 
#40
#40
The Gators winning is not a neatly wrapped package yet. We've played more football this year than Central Fla.

Were we not the underdogs re Kal? :)
 
#41
#41
lawgator1 said:
Top five reasons Florida can prevail at Neyland:

5) The offensive line has had two weeks to work together and develop some chemistry and to get some much-needed experience coming into the UT game. They have improved greatly across that 120 minutes.

4) The Gator defensive secondary has shown real ability. This was another spot where the Gators were thin on experience, but they are speedy and I think Charlie Strong has emphasized the fundamentals with this group such that they are ready to take on Meacham, etc. Look for Florida to play a lot of man coverage, but probably not a lot of blitzing.

3) Tim Tebow will get some time in this game, even if its close. During the Southern Miss game, he came in and ran some plays even when the game was still within reach for Southern Miss. that tells you that Meyer has a lot of confidence in his decision-making.

2) Leak is throwing darts on vertical frozen ropes 35 yards. He may not have the same ability to throw to a spot as, say, Danny Weurffel, but he has a better arm than any Florida QB I can remember. One pass in particular last Saturday was a tight spiral zinger to Caldwell directly between two defenders and was never in doubt. Look for Florida receivers to run very sharp routes, with lots of stop-and-cuts, less streak patterns.

1) Percy Harvin. Remember that name. Heck, you don't really need to remember it because you will see and hear it so often over the next few years it will haunt you in your dreams. He's a phenom.
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Top five reasons Tennessee can prevail at Neyland:

5) The offensive line has had two weeks to work together and develop some chemistry and to get some much-needed experience coming into the UF game. They have improved greatly across that 120 minutes.

4) The Tennessee defensive secondary has shown real ability. This was another spot where the Vols were thin on experience, but they are speedy and I think The Chief has emphasized the fundamentals with this group such that they are ready to take on Caldwell, etc. Look for Tennessee to play a lot of man coverage, but probably not a lot of blitzing.

3) Montero Hardesty will get some time in this game, even if its close. During the Cal game, he came in and ran some plays even when the game was still within reach for the Bears. that tells you that Fulmer has a lot of confidence in his running ability.

2) Ainge is throwing darts on vertical frozen ropes 50 yards. He may have the same ability to throw to a spot as, say, Danny Weurffel, and he has a better arm than any Tennessee QB I can remember. One pass in particular last Saturday was a tight spiral to Meachem directly between two defenders and was never in doubt. Look for Tennessee receivers to run very sharp routes, with lots of stop-and-cuts, less streak patterns.

1) Coker. Remember that name. Heck, you don't really need to remember it because you will see and hear it so often over the next few years it will haunt you in your dreams. He's a phenom.

Basically Im just showing you how we can say the same of our unit and be exactly accurate.:rock: :) :dance2: :post-4-1090547912:
 
#42
#42
dan4vols said:
Some one who knows defense better than me feel free to correct me but if I look at the Florida offense...I think the best way to defend them is to shoot the gaps run blitzing on almost every play. If its a run you disrupt the timing a probably get a loss yards tackle. If its a pass you get a sack or at least disrupt the QB's timing and cause him to get rid of the ball, INT or an incomplete. If the Gators are probably going man to man on their DB's as Lawgator suggests, that's probably THEIR defensive game plan:question:
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What I'd do and I'd almost bet UT will do is go with 3 down linemen for much of the game.

UF likes to run motion and get misdirection runs by WR's of that motion. So I'd alternately blitz a LB to either trail that motion man and hit Leak on the PA or else blitz the on-side LB with the intention of white-eyeing that motion WR.

Whoever UT's bully is now, he needs to line up over the center and push him into the backfield on every play.

The 3-4 opens up all kinds of blitz angles that could really mess with an inexperienced line. It could cause Leak to start worrying too much about his line calls.

***As for LG's comments about UT needing to slow the game down and keep the ball away from UF... I really don't think that's the case. I think UT would want to score points putting tremendous pressure on your o-line to keep up.

Except for the injuries, the advantage in readiness to play at elite game speed should go to UT. You've played So Miss and UCF teams that appear to be down this year. Cal and probably AFA are better teams than either of them this year.

It should be some nervous fun.
 
#43
#43
I have two main concerns in this game. 1) If Fla comes in with any new wrinkles that are successful, Chavis is slow to adjust. He rarely makes any in-the-game-adjustments and usuall waits until halftime to make them. By that time it may be too late. 2) Ainge has been too good. He was really good the first part of his freshman year too and got worse as the year progressed. The pressure of the Florida Factor (biggest game of his life), I wonder if he has the mental discipline to play like he has practiced (and played so far) and not allow mistakes to affect him, because in a game this big, there is bound to be one. If he maintains his edge through this game and the defense can make the right adjustments (in the game). I believe we will not only win this game but will run the tables.
 
#44
#44
TBALLVOL said:
I have two main concerns in this game. 1) If Fla comes in with any new wrinkles that are successful, Chavis is slow to adjust. He rarely makes any in-the-game-adjustments and usuall waits until halftime to make them. By that time it may be too late. 2) Ainge has been too good. He was really good the first part of his freshman year too and got worse as the year progressed. The pressure of the Florida Factor (biggest game of his life), I wonder if he has the mental discipline to play like he has practiced (and played so far) and not allow mistakes to affect him, because in a game this big, there is bound to be one. If he maintains his edge through this game and the defense can make the right adjustments (in the game). I believe we will not only win this game but will run the tables.
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point one is an over reaction to a poorly prepared defense for Air Force...Chavis has been very good at making adjustments hte past few years...Chavis has been the only constant good thing for UT over the past few years. Now early in his career, i would agree with you, but over the last 6 or 7 years, Chavis has earned his stripes.

point 2...Ainge is too good? OK...no explanation can justify this statement. Cause if memory serves, he led UT on the game winning FG drive against UF two years ago???
 
#45
#45
LG,
Interesting anaysis on your part. I will say that living in the greater Hampton Roads area I was able to see Harvin play some last year. His talents were amazing, and yes I was impressed. However, from a character stand point he(Harvin) left me very unimpressed. I personally saw him get thrown out of two football games. One where he was cussing out officials, another he physically confronted(pushing one) on a bad call. The Virginia High School Athletic Association eventually took action after he got into another dispute with an official during a basketball game. I believe they barred him from competing in the state track meet, where the prior season he set state records. Although he is very gifted athletically his attitude fit right in with the Allen Iverson mold, which quite honestly I was really dissapointed to see. It was all about Harvin all the time, end of story.
It wouldn't bother me to see Mr. Mayo put his Hard Hat(you know the one with the POWER T) on his chest. I am sure the fellow Hampton Roads native will relish that chance. I for one would certainly love to see Harvin blowing snot bubbles.
Should be a great game though, all things considered. The winner of this one should be in the drivers seat in the SEC East.
 
#46
#46
The biggest reason the Gators won't win......because Corso will pick them to win.
 
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