Why do these problem child players keep happening to Tennessee?

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I/we know it seems like "US" I know cause it hurts!! ...But look at the national level! It happens every school and every team that thieves to BIG TIME....even at the G5 level. We are not alone....

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GVF said:
Walmart called. Your meds are ready.
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lol who tf shops at Walmart for meds? You must live in the middle of nowhere. Either way, this response is very indicative of the mindset of many people on this forum. Yall just claim "bs" or yell "false" with no evidence that disproves others' claims. For the people who say we arent alone, what are yall talking about? Can anyone find similar situations to what we have encountered with Nico and now Chaz? People claim that we dont notice other teams struggles because people only follow Tennessee. That's only true for the people in this forum who have never left east TN, I guess. I try to follow other SEC teams as best as possible and besides some problems with the law (Aden Holloway and UGA's whole roster), I have not seen or heard of the levels of NIL internal disputes and players mental issues that we have at Tennessee
 
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utvolpj said:
How many other teams do you follow as closely? All high level programs deal with them
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Exactly. Every team with notoriety has is share of prima donnas, intrusive parents. Greedy agents, gangsta thug influences. It's here to stay..
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
It's a Heupel problem. I dont know if he isnt doing good personal evaluations on these kids or what but there is no doubt that this is now a consistent trend with his program. I think he doesn't command a lot of respect in the locker room. He is not an intimidating dude and he doesnt portray himself in a flattering light. For as much of a dbag as Kiffin is, you dont see him having these issues
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Yeah, Heuple really screwed up with that kid Bryce Brown. Oh, and Hurd, wow did Heuple blow it!
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
lol who tf shops at Walmart for meds? You must live in the middle of nowhere. Either way, this response is very indicative of the mindset of many people on this forum. Yall just claim "bs" or yell "false" with no evidence that disproves others' claims. For the people who say we arent alone, what are yall talking about? Can anyone find similar situations to what we have encountered with Nico and now Chaz? People claim that we dont notice other teams struggles because people only follow Tennessee. That's only true for the people in this forum who have never left east TN, I guess. I try to follow other SEC teams as best as possible and besides some problems with the law (Aden Holloway and UGA's whole roster), I have not seen or heard of the levels of NIL internal disputes and players mental issues that we have at Tennessee
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Nah. We just have better things to have anxiety over.
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
It's a Heupel problem. I dont know if he isnt doing good personal evaluations on these kids or what but there is no doubt that this is now a consistent trend with his program. I think he doesn't command a lot of respect in the locker room. He is not an intimidating dude and he doesnt portray himself in a flattering light. For as much of a dbag as Kiffin is, you dont see him having these issues
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Drama queen bs to be blunt. There are over 100 players in the program each year. There have been 700 players on the team in 6 years. 3-4 player issues is nothing. And if people don’t think there are player issues at other schools they are either in a bubble or just ignorant. The Kiffin comment about not having any players issues falls under either naive or uninformed or both. Quinton Judkins says hold my beer as do 40 other players who left ole Miss before ‘24 and ‘25 season. “Locker room issues” also mentioned often.
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
lol who tf shops at Walmart for meds? You must live in the middle of nowhere. Either way, this response is very indicative of the mindset of many people on this forum. Yall just claim "bs" or yell "false" with no evidence that disproves others' claims. For the people who say we arent alone, what are yall talking about? Can anyone find similar situations to what we have encountered with Nico and now Chaz? People claim that we dont notice other teams struggles because people only follow Tennessee. That's only true for the people in this forum who have never left east TN, I guess. I try to follow other SEC teams as best as possible and besides some problems with the law (Aden Holloway and UGA's whole roster), I have not seen or heard of the levels of NIL internal disputes and players mental issues that we have at Tennessee
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How was the situation with Nico, Heupel's fault? How could have he possibly known how his father would behave?

Also, I would ask what kind of first hand experience do you have as a student athlete? That's not necessarily a gauge to necessity that a person knows better. I know hundreds of guys who never made it to that level that know the Coleman situation has absolutely nothing to do with the respect Heupel commands in the locker room. Do you get that Coleman has never been a part of the "locker room". He hasn't went in there and got ready for practice every day. Not even close. He isn't a part of the locker room. That you don't know this fact isn't surprising
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
It's a Heupel problem. I dont know if he isnt doing good personal evaluations on these kids or what but there is no doubt that this is now a consistent trend with his program. I think he doesn't command a lot of respect in the locker room. He is not an intimidating dude and he doesnt portray himself in a flattering light. For as much of a dbag as Kiffin is, you dont see him having these issues
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You know this how? 🤡
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
It's a Heupel problem. I dont know if he isnt doing good personal evaluations on these kids or what but there is no doubt that this is now a consistent trend with his program. I think he doesn't command a lot of respect in the locker room. He is not an intimidating dude and he doesnt portray himself in a flattering light. For as much of a dbag as Kiffin is, you dont see him having these issues
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Recall Knuklehead Richardson aka Nukesey or something like that while Kiffin was here? There were a handful of others as well. Kiffin specifically recruits these highly talented kids that have issues. The difference is he must put the fear of God in them as they don't talk about it to anybody that makes it public. Nor does anybody on the team discuss it. That is unless the law is forced to get involved. Too much gossip coming out of the UTAD always has always will.
 
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IfDickeyStayed said:
It's a Heupel problem. I dont know if he isnt doing good personal evaluations on these kids or what but there is no doubt that this is now a consistent trend with his program. I think he doesn't command a lot of respect in the locker room. He is not an intimidating dude and he doesnt portray himself in a flattering light. For as much of a dbag as Kiffin is, you dont see him having these issues
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Not being rude kiffin would probably throw his own team and his own family under the bus to get his way....oh wait he always has.. He will always be the biggest dbag POS.
 
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Remy said:
Recall Knuklehead Richardson aka Nukesey or something like that while Kiffin was here? There were a handful of others as well. Kiffin specifically recruits these highly talented kids that have issues. The difference is he must put the fear of God in them as they don't talk about it to anybody that makes it public. Nor does anybody on the team discuss it. That is unless the law is forced to get involved. Too much gossip coming out of the UTAD always has always will.
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And the prius don't forget lol
 
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Maybe because people like Bear Bryant, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Woody Hayes, Bo Shembeckler, Jimmy Johnson, etc threw them off the team immediately. We let it drag on and on.
 
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None of the recruiting history matters anymore. Players don’t stick around and develop. They don’t develop character through overcoming adversity. I would be willing to bet it over the next 6 to 7 years, if things don’t change with NIL and transfer rules, you will see a smaller percentage of five star high school athletes, making it to the pros.

They want instant gratification and without guard rails to keep them on track, there is very little player development, but a higher level of entitlement.
 
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Franklin_Vol09 said:
None of the recruiting history matters anymore. Players don’t stick around and develop. They don’t develop character through overcoming adversity. I would be willing to bet it over the next 6 to 7 years, if things don’t change with NIL and transfer rules, you will see a smaller percentage of five star high school athletes, making it to the pros.

They want instant gratification and without guard rails to keep them on track, there is very little player development, but a higher level of entitlement.
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Some do and some don't. It still seems loke 60% or more of the roster stays at their school. I also don't think it is always the players, NIL also presents a great route to cut players that aren't meeting expectations which might be the problem with most of the players in my original post.
 
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