Why did we call “THAT PLAY”?

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I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
 
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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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Yes, there are 3-5 plays each week that you 'short-list' against each opponent.

Why didn't we change formation and/or play after they called timeout?

If the 2-point attempt was Play # 2 on the list, then it really didn't matter much.

Skin them Kats!
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Why didn't we change formation and/or play after they called timeout?
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This is the question I was asking before the play was even run. They clearly called TO because they had scouted that formation and knew the flair pass to Kitzelman was the only non-running play we had run out of it. With no timeouts, why not come out in a spread formation with a zillion options instead of virtually telling them what was coming? Yeah, Joey's pass was awful, but this is 99% on the call IMO.
 
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VolBricks said:
even the announcers knew what was coming. It was just a learning experience for a play caller and his head coach (who people are starting to doubt)
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Yup.

The camera went to Josh, and you could see him say some variation of 'Stick With It'.

Since the opponent only gets six timeouts, and we have a zillion plays, I'm of the opinion that you always move to next play in that situation.
 
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High and outside throw to the big TE. Either a touchdown or miss. Highly doubt a pick six ensues.

Clock management kinda sucked….but I don’t hate the call.

Players have to execute to a high level. Especially againt against a very good team…on their home field…at night.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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According to E Ainge the player was open. All plays are called to get a good player in space so they can make plays.
The throw was poor. Bad plays happen occassionally.
 
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Bama is a very good team. Our boys actually ran and passed fairly decent…until the redone. Bout equal in total yds but couldn’t put it in the end zone. Execution and attention to detail killed any chance of beating ua…as much as the play calling.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I understand why we would call it in any other situation. My guess is that we have 3 “money plays” at the goal line.
But my question is why the play action play? We should’ve been creative and at least made the RB move or something? I can’t get that play out of my head . Everyone knew it was a pass. The play action was stupid
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Because Heupel? It's almost as though he doesn't trust his offensive scheme. If you're gonna go down, go down throwing your best punch.
 
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sami said:
This is the question I was asking before the play was even run. They clearly called TO because they had scouted that formation and knew the flair pass to Kitzelman was the only non-running play we had run out of it. With no timeouts, why not come out in a spread formation with a zillion options instead of virtually telling them what was coming? Yeah, Joey's pass was awful, but this is 99% on the call IMO.
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Yea, I think we should have had our best receivers running in the end zone - Joey throws sure TD or way over everyone‘s head
 
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What I have noticed is that our offense has declined each game since the first game against Syracuse, except for the softies. And this program plays too many softies which embellishes its record.

I just hope the team doesn't lose faith the rest of the season or this could get ugly.
 
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JC61 said:
High and outside throw to the big TE. Either a touchdown or miss. Highly doubt a pick six ensues.

Clock management kinda sucked….but I don’t hate the call.

Players have to execute to a high level. Especially againt against a very good team…on their home field…at night.
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How can anyone not hate a play action there? It was telegraphed from a mile away with zero chance that anyone would bite on it.
 
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Even with everyone knowing we shouldn't/couldn't run, play action probably won't work, no elite pass catchers in the game and showing the exact same look after the time out, the play was still there.
A good throw, like one a high school kid can usually make, and Kitz probably scores. He had his man by a yard or more. Over outside shoulder towards the pylon. Kitz is 250. Probably could have made his way in with DB in trail position
It was not only a bad throw, it was the worst throw in the wrist possible place it could have been thrown. No chance for Kitz to make a play.
Wish Bishop could have kept his feet and made the tackle too. No reason to fall for the juke, push him out of bounds.
 
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Everyone keeps saying it was obvious we were going to pass. How so? We were on the one yard line. We could have ran. If we had, we may have scored, and probably lowered the risk of anything bad happening. However, if we did run and it got stuffed everyone would have been mad that the play call was too conservative, and we should have thrown to the outside. Our coaches called the play that they thought would have the most success. The players did not execute. Thats all. It happens. Get over it.
 
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Jimmyandjoes said:
Even with everyone knowing we shouldn't/couldn't run, play action probably won't work, no elite pass catchers in the game and showing the exact same look after the time out, the play was still there.
A good throw, like one a high school kid can usually make, and Kitz probably scores. He had his man by a yard or more. Over outside shoulder towards the pylon. Kitz is 250. Probably could have made his way in with DB in trail position
It was not only a bad throw, it was the worst throw in the wrist possible place it could have been thrown. No chance for Kitz to make a play.
Wish Bishop could have kept his feet and made the tackle too. No reason to fall for the juke, push him out of bounds.
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Aguilar’s neck was hurt. He had been off on several throws. Asking him to throw an outside pass where he could not be off, the D linemen are selling out to rush the passer, and the DBs are playing the pass is just foolish when the guy is playing injured and clearly not at his sharpest.
 
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LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
Aguilar’s neck was hurt. He had been off on several throws. Asking him to throw an outside pass where he could not be off, the D linemen are selling out to rush the passer, and the DBs are playing the pass is just foolish when the guy is playing injured and clearly not at his sharpest.
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Agreed.
My point was only that he was open
 
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B81 said:
Everyone keeps saying it was obvious we were going to pass. How so? We were on the one yard line. We could have ran. If we had, we may have scored, and probably lowered the risk of anything bad happening. However, if we did run and it got stuffed everyone would have been mad that the play call was too conservative, and we should have thrown to the outside. Our coaches called the play that they thought would have the most success. The players did not execute. Thats all. It happens. Get over it.
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If you couldn’t see that a pass was coming, that’s on you. The vast majority of people watching saw it. Alabama certainly saw it and called timeout to make sure everyone knew what was coming. We went ahead with it anyway. To try to argue that it wasn’t obvious when everything said and done by anyone who watched or played in the game indicates it was quite obvious is a ridiculous take.

Our coaches called a horrific play. If they thought that was the best they could do, it is a poor reflection on them. The injured QB didn’t make a great throw, but the stupidity of the coaches is more to blame than the execution of an injured quarterback.
 
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