Why did ties exist for so long?

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GAVol said:
I’ll never forget Pat Dye’s reaction when our FG attempt at the end missed. It was like they’d won a national title. It was weird.
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Yep...When they interviewed him right after the game ended I thought he was going to cry.....Like I was.;)
 
#52
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Coaches prefer a tie vs a loss. That’s the mindset of most coaches. Every glass is half empty.

Good ties
1964 LSU
1965 Alabama
1968 Georgia
1987 Auburn
1985 Ga Tech
1990 Colorado

Bad ties
1993 Alabama
1990 Auburn
1985 UCLA
1973 UCLA
1977 Oregon St.
 
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#53
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I’m like everyone, always want a win and with that there’s a looser.
But In some games, any sport, many times neither team deserves to loose, gotta give props when it’s just a darn good game.
I‘M glad for shoot outs or tie breakers.
And GO Big Orange
 
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05_never_again said:
They did not create the separate BCSNCG until 2006.

Edit: Even though they created a separate BCSNCG in 2006, I guess they still used one of the existing bowl games to match up #1 and #2. So yes, 1998.
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Ahh gotcha. I forgot there was the added Bowl just for the NCG. I was wracking my brain wondering where you got 2006 from. That makes more sense.
 
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9296potsguy said:
No one has even brought up the miserable ending in the 1993 UT Bama game? I remember getting back on the band bus and it was stunned silence. Until someone let out a loud F bomb. And yes, the vast majority of band members are really into the game.
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I was in Birmingham for this game and walking back to the car, a Bama fan came right up to me and said "How does it feel? How does it feel Tennessee?" I said, 'How do you feel?' "I feel REAL good!" 'Well, then you feel better than me.'

David Palmer for 2 pt conversion and everybody in the stadium knew it was coming. That was definitely a bad tie. Same for 85 UCLA when we blew a 16 point lead in the 4th quarter and gave up 2 TD's and 2 2 pt conversions. Sickening. 84 Army game that ended in a 24-24 tie was also extremely disappointing. Coach Majors always said he loved his sister and didn't mind kissing her.
 
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My sources tell me there is a plan in the works to reinstate the tie. Conferences and teams, in the name of 'fairness' an avoiding hurt feelings, will be aggresively influnced to play for a tie. The possibility of monetary bonuses is also being discussed for games that end in a tie.

Word has it that the SEC and their 'dumb' fans are resisting this move.....
 
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m1al said:
My sources tell me there is a plan in the works to reinstate the tie. Conferences and teams, in the name of 'fairness' an avoiding hurt feelings, will be aggresively influnced to play for a tie. The possibility of monetary bonuses is also being discussed for games that end in a tie.

Word has it that the SEC and their 'dumb' fans are resisting this move.....
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You know, the insanity knows no bounds I guess...
 
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GAVol said:
Correct. Yep... I remember that game vividly. They were picking up chunks of yards every time they ran it. I’m sure the plan was for him to get 10 and go down or get out of bounds so they could try a FG. Instead, he saw daylight and got greedy.
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Exactly right.
 
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Now regarding those Christmas gifts,

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GAVol said:
Correct. Yep... I remember that game vividly. They were picking up chunks of yards every time they ran it. I’m sure the plan was for him to get 10 and go down or get out of bounds so they could try a FG. Instead, he saw daylight and got greedy.
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I attended the same schools as one of the starting players on that team and had the same football coaches. Word from that player was exactly what you described. Webb was instructed to get the first down markers and go down to setup the spike play and then the field goal. When he saw all the daylight he thought he could score and by the time he realized he couldn't it was too late.
 
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#64
I have wondered that too, especially after the addition of the top button at collar level removed the need to use a tie to keep the collar closed. At some jobs, ties are still required, probably only for the reason of demoralizing employees
 
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I really wanted this to be about abolishing neckties. Who tf invented them in the first place. Just sayin
 
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It was always the eeriest feeling walking out of the stadium after a tie. The game would end and everyone would just get up and walk out. The walk down the hill was just quiet. Normally seemed like a wasted day.
 
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There's something rather old-fashioned and sporting about "two teams of equal strength played today," which is what a tie is. It feels hollow to some because no winner was chosen, and it feels satisfying to others because the contest was fought to its end without capitulation.

Nowadays folks don't care much for ties. All or nothing. We find ways to declare winners where no win was earned in regular play. It's just how society is now.
 
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Another factor was that in the old days - pre-1960s - most schools did not have lights (UT didn't get permanent lights until '73) and so there was a limited time window to get the game played. Sunset in the fall (pre-DST) was around 5 or 5-30pm, and sooner the farther west you were in a given time-zone, so, realistically, you wanted to get done by 4. Tennessee's usual start time was 12:30.

Add to that the National Championship was determined by polls which actually benefited Bob Neyland and Tennessee in 1951 as they were cemented as National Champions before losing to Maryland in the Sugar Bowl. In short, ties didn't hurt a teams record all that much.
 
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DuckinVol said:
A year or so after OT was put in place, I went to the UT vs. AR game which seemed to have 50-11 overtimes. Not long after, my wife and I were at an Ole Miss vs. AR game which went even longer. I've hated overtime ever since.
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I was at that TN vs Arkansas overtime game. It ruined party time.
 
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