Why did ties exist for so long?

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I'm very confused as to why it took until 1996 for college football to get rid of the possibility of a tie.
What dumb traditionalist wanted to keep the tie around for so long!



Just a dumb ending to this game.

Why no field goal?
Why run a draw and not get out of bounds and just accept a tie?

Seemed like the Bill Walsh and Musberger just accepted it. "Yep makes perfect sense to just settle for a gutless tie"
 
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That's a fantastic question, and one I've wondered about too.

I suppose one response is that there were just different sensibilities among fans, coaches and administrators in those days. I also think it's funny that it wasn't until 2006 that a bonafide attempt was made to ensure that #1 would face #2 in a game to decide the national championship game. The fact that it took so long was a vestige of a bygone era, where college football was an extremely parochial/regional game and winning a "national championship" wasn't really a concept yet.

However, coming up with a way to break a tie is a hell of a lot easier than coming up with a system to crown a national champion, though. No idea why ties existed until 1996.
 
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A year or so after OT was put in place, I went to the UT vs. AR game which seemed to have 50-11 overtimes. Not long after, my wife and I were at an Ole Miss vs. AR game which went even longer. I've hated overtime ever since.
 
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DuckinVol said:
A year or so after OT was put in place, I went to the UT vs. AR game which seemed to have 50-11 overtimes. Not long after, my wife and I were at an Ole Miss vs. AR game which went even longer. I've hated overtime ever since.
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I was at the Arkansas game too.
 
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give_him 6 said:
I was at the Arkansas game too.[/QUO
05_never_again said:
That's a fantastic question, and one I've wondered about too.

I suppose one response is that there were just different sensibilities among fans, coaches and administrators in those days. I also think it's funny that it wasn't until 2006 that a bonafide attempt was made to ensure that #1 would face #2 in a game to decide the national championship game. The fact that it took so long was a vestige of a bygone era, where college football was an extremely parochial/regional game and winning a "national championship" wasn't really a concept yet.

However, coming up with a way to break a tie is a hell of a lot easier than coming up with a system to crown a national champion, though. No idea why ties existed until 1996.
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All the experts knew that playing more than 60 minutes at 10 or 11 games a year would put too much stress on 19-22 year old kids whose bodies were not mature. Then they discovered TV and cable contracts!
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PlanetVolunteer said:
I'm very confused as to why it took until 1996 for college football to get rid of the possibility of a tie.
What dumb traditionalist wanted to keep the tie around for so long!



Just a dumb ending to this game.

Why no field goal?
Why run a draw and not get out of bounds and just accept a tie?

Seemed like the Bill Walsh and Musberger just accepted it. "Yep makes perfect sense to just settle for a gutless tie"
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I clicked on this thread thinking you meant "neck-ties." I wasn't aware they were gone, but clicked with much hope. "Maybe Covid has killed the neck-tie," thought I. But alas.
 
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DuckinVol said:
A year or so after OT was put in place, I went to the UT vs. AR game which seemed to have 50-11 overtimes. Not long after, my wife and I were at an Ole Miss vs. AR game which went even longer. I've hated overtime ever since.
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I love those long overtimes!

More football please!
 
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Knox-a-rue said:
I clicked on this thread thinking you meant "neck-ties." I wasn't aware they were gone, but clicked with much hope. "Maybe Covid has killed the neck-tie," thought I. But alas.
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Pretty sure Steve Jobs dealt the cravat a mortal blow for most. I still enjoy wearing mine.

Oddly, i think Jobs did the same for the mock turtleneck.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's a fantastic question, and one I've wondered about too.

I suppose one response is that there were just different sensibilities among fans, coaches and administrators in those days. I also think it's funny that it wasn't until 2006 that a bonafide attempt was made to ensure that #1 would face #2 in a game to decide the national championship game. The fact that it took so long was a vestige of a bygone era, where college football was an extremely parochial/regional game and winning a "national championship" wasn't really a concept yet.

However, coming up with a way to break a tie is a hell of a lot easier than coming up with a system to crown a national champion, though. No idea why ties existed until 1996.
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2006? BCS started in 98?
 
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DuckinVol said:
A year or so after OT was put in place, I went to the UT vs. AR game which seemed to have 50-11 overtimes. Not long after, my wife and I were at an Ole Miss vs. AR game which went even longer. I've hated overtime ever since.
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I think they should play 2-3 OTs and call it a tie if not settled after that (sorta like hockey). I’m not a fan of 5+ OT games, either. It starts coming down to luck as it goes on and on.

I also think MLB should do the same after three extra innings.
 
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The NCAA knew the BCS was on the horizon to definitely crown a national champ, so they had to take ties out of the equation. Prior to that, ties were accepted because rankings were strictly based on polls. To the pollsters, a tie was deemed much more acceptable than an actual loss. The polls had way too much subjectivity in them leading to more than one national champion in the same season at times, hence the creation of the BCS.
 
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