White Targeting "Offensive Minded" Coach

[lifeisdeep]

This point about HCs being coordinators at one point is a pointless point to make here. This would be true and a fine point to make if we’re a lower level Power 5 or a school in a smaller conference. But we’re not. We’re a Power 5 school with a tradition that rivals every other school save maybe Bama and ND. We’re also about to get hit with massive sanctions and we just got done playing the coordinator-to-head coach route, it didn’t end well and proved this isn’t a place to learn on the job. We don’t have the 5* recruits to set him up with a good start and our roster is getting depleted by the day. Elliott is a fantastic coach with a fantastic resume, but this isn’t the right time to go that route. I’ll also add that it’s easy to look amazing when you have that 5* talent and are coaching under one of the best the business, but it’s also a huge risk that we just can’t afford at the moment. Rewind the clock 3 years, sure give him the keys, but not now in 2021 after what all we’ve been through.

This is such basic common sense that it astounds me that anyone would argue with it. Common sense tells one that someone with experience doing anything is probably going to be better at it than someone with no experience: if you had to have open-heart surgery, would you pick someone who had just graduated from Harvard medical school at the top of his class but had never performed the surgery in question, or someone who had graduated from a lesser university but had performed 100 open-heart surgeries and was known as one of the top heart surgeons in the country?

It's great that we finally hired an AD with a track record. Does that mean all of us fans know nothing whatsoever about football, that we can't tell with our own eyes the difference between a good football coach such as Hugh Freeze or Matt Campbell, and a bad one such as the one we just fired? It does not. Does it mean the new AD should have no expectations and be allowed to do whatever he feels, just because he has the title and we don't? It does not.

It's great that White already has candidates in mind, if indeed he does. Do the words, "Athletic Director," beside his name mean we are obligated to smile and thank him regardless of whether he utilizes common sense in this hire? They do not. It's great if he thinks the world of Elliott and thinks he potentially could be a great head coach - but that's a guess. Unless he can see into the future, he has nothing other than his opinion of the man to base that on - and that makes hiring him a gamble. Hiring a coach who has already proven he can do it, by doing it, is comparatively not a gamble, and it's just basic common sense, considering both the tradition and resources of our program and the state of said program at this juncture, to expect Mr. White to not gamble with the future of this football program, just because he can.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

How did Fuller get his HC start? Pruitt? Saban started out at a P5. Mullen and Stoops to name a few. UT isn't nlany of a better P5 and any other school. Right now we are far below most as in appeal.

Saban didn’t start out at a program like Bama, he worked his way up to it. Same with Mullen, who didn’t get handed the job at Florida without proving his worth. Your points are mute when you say this, because yet again, TN is not a low tier Power 5 job.

 

[Birdie]

He spent just more time with Dabo Sweeney.

Napier has turned that Louisiana program into a legit program. He's not some Saban Coordinator...

I understand. He also got fired by Sweeney. Saban has been his biggest influence and he uses "The Process" just like Saban and every Saban wannabe except he calls it "The Journey". He will try and run his program just like Saban. We can't go back to that well for a 3rd time. Time to try a coach from a different tree.

 

[Birdie]

The sum of his career is substantially more than just his time with Saban. Would you be interested in Matt Campbell? Because Napier walked the dog on Campbell 4 months ago.

Apples to Bananas comparison. Trams lose games. Happens. Napier's biggest influence has been Saban. He even copied Saban's "The Process" and implements that into his program. Just like Dooley and Pruitt. We need to try someone who's biggest coaching influence wasn't nick Saban. Not go back to the same well 3x's...

 

[loservol]

Saban didn’t start out at a program like Bama, he worked his way up to it. Same with Mullen, who didn’t get handed the job at Florida without proving his worth. Your points are mute when you say this, because yet again, TN is not a low tier Power 5 job.

Same deal with Urban. Sick of these stupid experiment hires that are forced on the fans.

 

[Perspective]

Apples to Bananas comparison. Trams lose games. Happens. Napier's biggest influence has been Saban. He even copied Saban's "The Process" and implements that into his program. Just like Dooley and Pruitt. We need to try someone who's biggest coaching influence wasn't nick Saban. Not go back to the same well 3x's...

Nearly any coach worth having has claimed to have “the process” mantra. Campbell is about the “falling in love with the process”

It’s whether they can get the players to buy into that as well

 

[Perspective]

Saban didn’t start out at a program like Bama, he worked his way up to it. Same with Mullen, who didn’t get handed the job at Florida without proving his worth. Your points are mute when you say this, because yet again, TN is not a low tier Power 5 job.

Saban started at Michigan St.
Tennessee is way closer to being the Michigan St of the SEC than it is Bama.

Day, Riley, Smart, Dabo all never had been HC at the P5 level, let alone elite P5.

If you’re saying Tennessee isn’t at that level, it’s harder to win here, so they need someone with more HC experience I agree. Yet, that contradicts with saying is above the Michigan St’s

 

[JoAllan]

Nearly any coach worth having has claimed to have “the process” mantra. Campbell is about the “falling in love with the process”

It’s whether they can get the players to buy into that as well

“If” their going to keep buying players......I hope the buy some better ones.

 

[Birdie]

Nearly any coach worth having has claimed to have “the process” mantra. Campbell is about the “falling in love with the process”

It’s whether they can get the players to buy into that as well

We don't need Sabans process again. You don't go to the same well for a third time.

 

[volsfan24017]

James Franklin perhaps? Offensive minded with in-state familiarity with recruiting. I’m not wanting this. Just curious if this is one of the options.