What Would J.P. Do?

#26
#26
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Howell is a better perimeter shooter than Tabb is and seems less selfish. Right now I start Howell over Tabb with him coming in a close 2nd.
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Less selfish? Thats ridiculous. Tabb is a glue guy. A team first guy. He doesnt care about scoring. He cares about doing the little things that teams have to do to win. The difference is just that Howell is a better outside shooter.
 
#27
#27
Rickbol, I agree. I love Tabb's game - toughness and selflessness and think we miss a lot if he's not in the rotation (he'll be in there). Who knows who's competing with whom right now? I think only a few players' spots are protected - after that, I think Bruce will play the guys who are performing the best come conference season.

FWIW, here's my take on Howell. The guy is an ideal back-up guard. He's not going to do anything special, nor is he going to do anything really terrible. He can be a decent shooter, but there are very few guards he can beat off the dribble. UT's system needs someone who can penetrate and get a defense out of position. Howell's not that guy, so naturally we're at a disadvantage when he's running the point.

What I like about him is his attitude and composure. He's a good FT shooter and can be an asset for protecting leads at the end of games. And he's ideal for situations if someone else gets hurt or in foul trouble, b/c he's experienced.

But if this team is going to reach its potential, it won't be with him in the starting lineup.
 
#28
#28
therickbol said:
Less selfish? Thats ridiculous. Tabb is a glue guy. A team first guy. He doesnt care about scoring. He cares about doing the little things that teams have to do to win. The difference is just that Howell is a better outside shooter.
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That's my take and obviously your's is different. I like Howell shooting the ball better than Tabb. Jordan just seems like the player you are talking about Tabb being to me.

He can be a decent shooter, but there are very few guards he can beat off the dribble. UT's system needs someone who can penetrate and get a defense out of position. Howell's not that guy, so naturally we're at a disadvantage when he's running the point.
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TennNC, since when do we dribble much anyways in Pearl system. They don't dribble that much at all because of all the passing. As far as a decent shooter, Howell is a Top 3 shooter on our team. Howell and Tabb seem to be very close defensively as well. Howell averages 20 minutes a game and Tabb averages 17 minutes a game, so honestly it really a wash anyways. As of right now I would prefer Howell, but that doesn't mean I might not prefer Tabb when it comes tourney time depending on his play in the SEC.
 
#30
#30
UT IE 95 said:
I would much rather have Tabb playing defense than Howell. They aren't even close IMO.
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Tabb has 4 more steals on the season than Howell does in 9 games. Seems pretty close to me. I like Tabb's performance closer to the rim than Howell's though.
 
#33
#33
g8terh8ter_eric said:
TennNC, since when do we dribble much anyways in Pearl system. They don't dribble that much at all because of all the passing.
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I'd argue that the current halfcourt system depends a lot on dribble penetration. There really aren't a lot of screens or hard cuts to the basket. It requires the PG (or whoever's handling the ball up top) to beat your man, cause someone else's man to leave theirs to help out, then find the open guy - and currently a lot of the time that's a 3-pt shooter.
 
#34
#34
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I would say that JuJuan and Tyler Smith would have something to say about that. :thumbsup:
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I would have to go with Tabb over Jujuan. Jujuan has lapses, Tabb hustles the whole time he's out there.

Tyler Smith is a phenomenal talent that can do anything he wants.
 
#35
#35
johnnybravo said:
You actually did say in another thread that a rotation would already be set by the time Prince was eligible and that he wouldn't be in it.

The few times I've seen him he seemed to handle the ball alright, but that not against SEC calibre competition.
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No - I said I didn't think he would get into the rotation and if he did that he'd get clean up minutes. And I would stand by that assuming we weren't playing so bad - but since we are I'm all for Prince getting some minutes and it isn't very surprising.
 
#36
#36
justingroves said:
I would have to go with Tabb over Jujuan. Jujuan has lapses, Tabb hustles the whole time he's out there.

Tyler Smith is a phenomenal talent that can do anything he wants.
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I don't know about that. JuJuan is 2nd on the team in steals and based on 20 or more minutes played per game is the best at not turning the ball over. JuJuan is VASTLY improved from last year, IMO.
 
#37
#37
g8terh8ter_eric said:
That's my take and obviously your's is different. I like Howell shooting the ball better than Tabb. Jordan just seems like the player you are talking about Tabb being to me.



TennNC, since when do we dribble much anyways in Pearl system. They don't dribble that much at all because of all the passing. As far as a decent shooter, Howell is a Top 3 shooter on our team. Howell and Tabb seem to be very close defensively as well. Howell averages 20 minutes a game and Tabb averages 17 minutes a game, so honestly it really a wash anyways. As of right now I would prefer Howell, but that doesn't mean I might not prefer Tabb when it comes tourney time depending on his play in the SEC.
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When we were playing really well at the end of last season Ramar Smith was doing a lot of good things for our offense on penetration. It is part of our offense. The reason the floor is so spread with the baseline cuts is to enable penetration. Howell just isnt capable of beating SEC players off the dribble. Its not his strength.

Wow, on to defense. The steals argument? That is not how you evaluate the quality of a defender. I dont mean to sound rude because you have the right to have your own opinion and I respect that. But the fact that you think Howell is as good of a defender as Tabb is so far out there that I dont think I can even continue to debate the issue with you anymore.
 
#38
#38
JuJuan needs to improve his shot selection or he is single-handedly going to be responsible for our early exit come tourney time.
 
#39
#39
therickbol said:
JuJuan needs to improve his shot selection or he is single-handedly going to be responsible for our early exit come tourney time.
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Lofton's shooting 35% on the season and you want to say JuJuan's going to be resposible?? Hell, JuJuan is shooting FT's better than Lofton at this point. Lofton is the Hefney of the B-Ball team to this point.
 
#40
#40
Lofton started the season in a huge shooting slump and has not completely gotten out of it. That is a totally different situtation than JuJuan's misses. I dont mind JuJuan shooting 3s. I think he has a very good 3-point shot. You dont think there is a problem when he catches the first pass 25 foot away from the basket, is contested and without rebounders, and pull the trigger? Sounds like another opinion I cant argue with because its so ridiculous. It looks like you use to many stats. FT% in an argument about shot selection? You need to watch the game and pay attention to our defenders and what shots are leading to the percentages they are shooting.
 
#42
#42
Lofton started the season in a huge shooting slump and has not completely gotten out of it. That is a totally different situtation than JuJuan's misses. I dont mind JuJuan shooting 3s. I think he has a very good 3-point shot. You dont think there is a problem when he catches the first pass 25 foot away from the basket, is contested and without rebounders, and pull the trigger? Sounds like another opinion I cant argue with because its so ridiculous. It looks like you use to many stats. FT% in an argument about shot selection? You need to watch the game and pay attention to our defenders and what shots are leading to the percentages they are shooting.
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I totally agree...
Jujuan is actually becoming a ball hog type of player..
i mean, he's really good, and can make shots.. but it seems like he shoots almost every time he gets it..
hopefully it stops when conference games start..
 
#43
#43
and hopefully Lofton will pick up his game when Conference starts.. theres some underdog SEC teams who've been playing well lately..
such as Vandy.
 
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