What would be a recruits list of Pros & Cons

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Lots of things matter to recruits, even the race of the coach. You can keep living in a dream world where you think race doesn't matter but it does. The significance of it varies from recruit to recruit and family to family.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Yes I do. But where I live has nothing to do with pulling out the race card.

All I know about racism is that you can claim it every time a minority is concerned, but it does not mean it is the case.

People overly use it as a crutch to promote their personal agenda, themselves, or their arguments.

I would think that the class that is most discriminated against in this day and age is the Middle age, middle class average white male.

Race is not an issue here. I saw on this site that Martin's team did not have a single white player or coach on it. I am surprised nobody has hollered racism.

The reason being is society is over it.
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Ok Rush

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10NCVol88 said:
Lots of things matter to recruits, even the race of the coach. You can keep living in a dream world where you think race doesn't matter but it does. The significance of it varies from recruit to recruit and family to family.
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Race of coach and recruit very true can see that, but if the recruit thinks that coach was run off because of his race then he has a problem.
 
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Yeah, some kids are going to rate the coaches color but most aren't. And of those that do, I think only a very few would make it a high criteria. The smart ones really are more interested in style of play, PT, facilities, NCAA appearances, etc. over the coaches color. Don't beat the dead horse and lets go on.
 
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10NCVol88 said:
Lots of things matter to recruits, even the race of the coach. You can keep living in a dream world where you think race doesn't matter but it does. The significance of it varies from recruit to recruit and family to family.
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When Nichols signed with Memphis State, I wondered if race played a factor in his decision or if it was that Memphis was closer to home or because the parents felt that Martin would not be at Tennessee for a full four seasons with their son.

Or a combination of all of those factors. So, I considered race as a reason that Nichols may have considered when making his decision.
 
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NBA prospect.

1) Where can I go where I don't have to go to class?

2) Kentucky is full? Where can I go where I can take the easiest classes.

3) How much money did my AAU coach get, and does momma get a share?

4) World Wide We$

5) Does Lebron ever hang out in their locker room?

6) Is Kentucky full?

7) Kansas, Duke or North Carolina...Unless UCLA is paying big money.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Every time race is left out, someone has to interject it into the conversation. Got news for fans, race can always be injected in a hiring or firing as long as you buy into it or sell it.

I ain't buying into it. Most Americans have moved beyond the 60s. That ship has sailed a long time ago. Get over it.
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Hmmm... not this guy - Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
wrong. Many knew it had a .01% chance of happening but were tired of ugly, boring, mediocre and underperforming basketball and wanted Martin gone because we were sick of the elementary school level coaching mistakes.
I'm fine with moving on but as long as people want to bring up Pearl and the petition I will set it straight for you.
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funny how you claimed to support the coach at UT regardless when Dooley was here, but with martin you are trying to get a petition signed to get him replaced. Seems hypocritical.
 
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back on the original topic, here's what I think they care about:

1. Playing Time
2. Teammates, guys you want to play with
3. Coaching, to win and get better
4. Getting exposure to play at the next level
5. Facilities
6. Geographic proximity for family/friends to see you play
 
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WA_Vol said:
funny how you claimed to support the coach at UT regardless when Dooley was here, but with martin you are trying to get a petition signed to get him replaced. Seems hypocritical.
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You have a serious ****ing problem, and you are a habitual liar.
 
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There is one, on-topic consideration that legitimately involves race:

For some black athletes, being around a black, male role-model is both a conscious desire and a unique opportunity, equal in value to getting a degree.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
There is one, on-topic consideration that legitimately involves race:

For some black athletes, being around a black, male role-model is both a conscious desire and a unique opportunity, equal in value to getting a degree.
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True, and I am not at all discounting the need for men of any race to stand up and be role models. But I believe a preferable way to think about the issue is ..." For 'some' athletes, being around a man who is a worthy role model is a conscious desire and a unique opportunity. ..."

Again, the value for some black youths to be coached and mentored by; and possibly more importantly see, an outstanding and worthy individual perform at the collegiate level can be inestimable.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
Lets say we're helping a friend who's got 35 offers from all over the country make a list of Pros vs Cons. What would be on the list?

What has their RPI averaged over the last 4 years.
Does their style fit how I like to play?
How long has the coaching staff been there?
Who is the head coach?
Have they won their division? conference?
How many trips to the dance since the current coach got there?
Does the school do well on the academic side?
What's their graduation rate?
Is it my home state school? (how much should this matter to me? .. what are the factors that make it really important, or not?)
Mom/Dad wants/don't want me to go there.
etc.

So, add, remove, move up or down, devise a weighting system or not.

I'm really curious as to how fans think recruits actually decide, or should decide. You can even add "The bagman got me a SUV and paid off Grandma's debts from gambling on rasslin' if you want. Try to keep it real.
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How does the fanbase react when things don't go their McDonalds drive up way?Hmmm. And why should I care what any of those idiots think?
 
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