What the Point of even having Football?

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DaytonLawVol

DaytonLawVol

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Here at Tennessee, according to Chris Low, Jimmy Hyams, TennStud, Vol12, Mike Hamilton etc... Tennessee is not that good of a job. We dont have any in state high school talent, we play in a conference with Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia...its just too hard. We were lucky back in the 1990s, now that reality has set in, we are doomed to be middle of the pack. We should just accept our fate, keep Fulmer cause we know what we will get with him.

Does the above paragraph not make you sick to your stomach? This is essentially what a vast majority of Fulmer supporters are saying. What ever happened to expecting more? Whatever happened to having a &*$#@!* Backbone?! Tennessee is the winningest college football program since 1920. THE WINNINGEST! This "woah is us" attitude will keep us having these type of seasons every other year. I mean seriously...whats even the point of playing? Whats even the point of expecting championships? Woah is us...Woah is us.
 
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I wonder if these people will admit they were wrong when a Peterson, Davis, whoever comes in here and turns this thing around?
 
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UTvol1fn said:
there is no way of knowing, but we need to take the risk
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a risk implies that something bad or worse could happen.

From my vantage point, it absolutely cannot get any worse. Losing all big games with little hope of improving in the future is the absolute bottom of the barrel. Hence, hiring freaking NewCoach wouldn't represent a risk.
 
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DaytonLawVol said:
Here at Tennessee, according to Chris Low, Jimmy Hyams, TennStud, Vol12, Mike Hamilton etc... Tennessee is not that good of a job. We dont have any in state high school talent, we play in a conference with Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia...its just too hard. We were lucky back in the 1990s, now that reality has set in, we are doomed to be middle of the pack. We should just accept our fate, keep Fulmer cause we know what we will get with him.

Does the above paragraph not make you sick to your stomach? This is essentially what a vast majority of Fulmer supporters are saying. What ever happened to expecting more? Whatever happened to having a &*$#@!* Backbone?! Tennessee is the winningest college football program since 1920. THE WINNINGEST! This "woah is us" attitude will keep us having these type of seasons every other year. I mean seriously...whats even the point of playing? Whats even the point of expecting championships? Woah is us...Woah is us.
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Good post, I feel the same way. The sand-baggers and apologists are lowering the bar for our program, and quite frankly it pisses me off bigtime.

Do we have an inherent disadvantage? Yes, but 1, only 1, that being in-state talent. We can overcome that with a hard working, intelligent and motivated staff.

Does anyone really believe that a coach the caliber of Saban or Meyer couldn't come in here and win (much less be a true contender for) an SEC Championship within a few years?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
a risk implies that something bad or worse could happen.

From my vantage point, it absolutely cannot get any worse. Losing all big games with little hope of improving in the future is the absolute bottom of the barrel. Hence, hiring freaking NewCoach wouldn't represent a risk.
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Agree, and at least we would have a reason to get excited over the long off season.
 
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In Fulmer's comments after the Bama game, I literally heard him say this "we had a couple of good offensive plays."

Well I &*$%#@* hope so! You get what 55-70 offensive plays a game? What are we?...freaking MTSU? It seems that Fulmer's expectations have deteriorated to almost nothing. The rest of the SEC is raising its expectations, we are lowering ours. This equals a loser mentality and a loser program.
 
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I don't know. These people act like we have a third rate program right in line with some directional schools. I'll say one thing, its being run like a third rate program.
 
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DaytonLawVol said:
Its a great story, but im not in to charity cases. I want to win.
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What's your problem? Did I link the wrong thing? The story is about WHY Tennessee is worth it. And has been for sometime if kids as far away as Alaska dream of growing up and playing for UT.
 
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Yep just like no basketball coach could come in and make UT's men a national program, because UT's men basketball is a coach graveyard.

I'm pretty tired of the lame arguments.
 
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DaytonLawVol said:
In Fulmer's comments after the Bama game, I literally heard him say this "we had a couple of good offensive plays."

Well I &*$%#@* hope so! You get what 55-70 offensive plays a game? What are we?...freaking MTSU? It seems that Fulmer's expectations have deteriorated to almost nothing. The rest of the SEC is raising its expectations, we are lowering ours. This equals a loser mentality and a loser program.
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I doubt were averaging 55 plays a game on offense. Probably right around 50.
 
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DaytonLawVol said:
Here at Tennessee, according to Chris Low, Jimmy Hyams, TennStud, Vol12, Mike Hamilton etc... Tennessee is not that good of a job. We dont have any in state high school talent, we play in a conference with Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia...its just too hard. We were lucky back in the 1990s, now that reality has set in, we are doomed to be middle of the pack. We should just accept our fate, keep Fulmer cause we know what we will get with him.

Does the above paragraph not make you sick to your stomach? This is essentially what a vast majority of Fulmer supporters are saying. What ever happened to expecting more? Whatever happened to having a &*$#@!* Backbone?! Tennessee is the winningest college football program since 1920. THE WINNINGEST! This "woah is us" attitude will keep us having these type of seasons every other year. I mean seriously...whats even the point of playing? Whats even the point of expecting championships? Woah is us...Woah is us.
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This is a weak argument, the in state talent thing. I just took a peak at USC's roster and there are lots of players from places other than So CAl. Patrick Turner remember him. My point is top programs go all over the world hunting the best players and Tennessee is no different. Last year we had a rough recruiting year, but I think we are in the top 10 this year and with our record and all the speculation that's pretty good. Just think what an exciting hire might do.
 
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High School talent is very lacking. Tennessee (the state) only has 2 of the top 150 prospects in the nation. This year they are both in Memphis. #2 wide receiver an #17 overall is Marlon Brown from Memphis Harding. He still likes Memphis but Pete Carrol has been in town 3 times this month to talk with him. The kicker is he wants to play basketball and football. Pearl has already agreed to allow this at UT.

The second is a lineman from Memphis Briarcrest who has already verbally committed to Georgia.

Tennessee is having to do alot of out of state recruiting. Given that the coaching talent has increased not only in the SEC but in other regional schools...it makes it tough. Maybe we should give the CPF another year. As of now, even in losing Nunes, we have the 7th best recruiting class. We completely overhauled our offensive staff and our defense is ranked about as good as could be expected giving the amount of time they have to spend on the field do to our 3 and outs.

I realize the trend over the past 10 years isn't as glorious as we would have hoped. But the other schools have had 10 years to catch up and try and get to where we were. It'll come around.
 
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We don’t want change; there is a risk it could take a long time to turn around; we might go through a lot of coaches before we find a good one (i.e., Alabama).

Davy Crockett and the men of the Alamo would be embarrassed by the wussification of their ancestors. :)
 
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DaytonLawVol said:
Here at Tennessee, according to Chris Low, Jimmy Hyams, TennStud, Vol12, Mike Hamilton etc... Tennessee is not that good of a job. We dont have any in state high school talent, we play in a conference with Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Georgia...its just too hard. We were lucky back in the 1990s, now that reality has set in, we are doomed to be middle of the pack. We should just accept our fate, keep Fulmer cause we know what we will get with him.

Does the above paragraph not make you sick to your stomach? This is essentially what a vast majority of Fulmer supporters are saying. What ever happened to expecting more? Whatever happened to having a &*$#@!* Backbone?! Tennessee is the winningest college football program since 1920. THE WINNINGEST! This "woah is us" attitude will keep us having these type of seasons every other year. I mean seriously...whats even the point of playing? Whats even the point of expecting championships? Woah is us...Woah is us.
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"woah is us"?? That's funny. You might want to look that one up.
 
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VolDad said:
We don’t want change; there is a risk it could take a long time to turn around; we might go through a lot of coaches before we find a good one (i.e., Alabama).

Davy Crockett and the men of the Alamo would be embarrassed by the wussification of their ancestors. :)
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I guess they think another coach couldn't come in here and lose a average of 4 games a year. Get bludgened by your biggest rivals every year, embarrass themselves weekly by all the bonehead plays and gaffes were treated too. I guess that would be a tough act to follow.
The next guy might screw up and actually look like a real football coach.
 
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Cartervol said:
I guess they think another coach couldn't come in here and lose a average of 4 games a year. Get bludgened by your biggest rivals every year. Embarrass themselves weekly, by all the bonehead plays and gaffes were treated too. I guess that would be a tough act to follow.
The next guy might screw up and actually look like a real football coach.
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Ask South carolina! Their ole ball coach fits your discription! I'll take Phil over the Carolina version of Darth Visor.
 
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TheTennesseeTom said:
Ask South carolina! Their ole ball coach fits your discription! I'll take Phil over the Carolina version of Darth Visor.
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that's just silliness. Phil hasn't seen a single day that he could take equal talent and play Spurrier within 3 touchdowns.
 
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I think an up and coming coach would jump at the chance to coach at UT, call me crazy? Nice place to live, storied program, should make good money and having the dean of SEC coaches shows we hold on to our coaches for longer than one bad season.

The only program on the horizon I feel we should worry about competing for a coach with would be Penn State ( I think JoePa may retire if his season is good enough)
 
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